<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Farmar/Sessions Martin/Ariza Granger/Ariza Villanueva/Frye Bynum/Frye OKC 8 man rotation.</div> Farmar should develop into a quality Pg, Sessions is a little more of an unknown. The starting five is young and talented but also very inexperienced. I think Farmar is the only one whoes played in a playoff game. Bynum will be a star but he just came off a huge injury so hopefully it doesn't hinder his development too much. The bench is a good energy bench with the Knicks castaways and Sessions but they too have never really gotten that many minutes. Villanueva isn't a good rebounder and he may struggle being a full time power forward but he certainly can score. The key too this team is energy as this team could be the big five in a couple of years but as of now they lack a lot of experience and that may hurt them in close or important games. Show us this again in two or three years and we may all say this guy was a freaking genius. But right now they remind me a lot like this years Portland Trailblazers- all good young players but lack of experience will prohibit them from making a serious run this year - especially with Bynum only one year removed from that injury
PG: D.Harris/K.Lowry SG: K.Azubuike SF: R.Gay PF: A.Horford/J.Maxiell C: D.Milicic Excuse me if there are misspellings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 14 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>and the current Blazers roster is more talented</div> yeh because they just added Bayless, Oden and Rudy Fernandez over the summer
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Aug 14 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: D.Harris/K.Lowry SG: K.Azubuike SF: R.Gay PF: A.Horford/J.Maxiell C: D.Milicic Excuse me if there are misspellings. </div> not really a great team especially if you compare it with other teams. Harris is solid, Gay should be an allstar this year and Hortford looks like he will be a star too. Lowry and Maxiell are good backups but you have huge holes at SG and C. Those two guys should not be starters in the league but rather the seventh or eighth guy off the bench. This team is going to have a lot of trouble scoring points. Gay is the only scorer and if teams lock down on him this team is in for a good lottery pick next year
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Aug 14 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: D.Harris/K.Lowry SG: K.Azubuike SF: R.Gay PF: A.Horford/J.Maxiell C: D.Milicic Excuse me if there are misspellings. </div> not really a great team especially if you compare it with other teams. Harris is solid, Gay should be an allstar this year and Hortford looks like he will be a star too. Lowry and Maxiell are good backups but you have huge holes at SG and C. Those two guys should not be starters in the league but rather the seventh or eighth guy off the bench. This team is going to have a lot of trouble scoring points. Gay is the only scorer and if teams lock down on him this team is in for a good lottery pick next year </div> Well I'll be damned, kk30 and myself agree on something for once.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Farmar/Sessions Martin/Ariza Granger/Ariza Villanueva/Frye Bynum/Frye OKC 8 man rotation.</div> Farmar should develop into a quality Pg, Sessions is a little more of an unknown. The starting five is young and talented but also very inexperienced. I think Farmar is the only one whoes played in a playoff game. Bynum will be a star but he just came off a huge injury so hopefully it doesn't hinder his development too much. The bench is a good energy bench with the Knicks castaways and Sessions but they too have never really gotten that many minutes. Villanueva isn't a good rebounder and he may struggle being a full time power forward but he certainly can score. The key too this team is energy as this team could be the big five in a couple of years but as of now they lack a lot of experience and that may hurt them in close or important games. Show us this again in two or three years and we may all say this guy was a freaking genius. But right now they remind me a lot like this years Portland Trailblazers- all good young players but lack of experience will prohibit them from making a serious run this year - especially with Bynum only one year removed from that injury </div> Thanks, glad someone else likes it. I think that while this team is inexperienced (the oldest player is 25) it fits together very well. The team will be able to run a lot. Bynum, Granger and Ariza are very good on D, and Martin and Farmar are solid as well. Granger and Villanueva are pretty interchangeable at the forward spots, either can play either spot on either end of the floor, so Granger can take on the better defender, and help make up for CVs rebounding troubles. I also think that Bynum can take care of the inside, and CV and Frye should help give him plenty of space. Martin, Farmar and Granger can also spread the floor and drive, so they can fit in the offense however they are needed, as they can all handle the ball pretty well also. I think that the team covers its own weaknesses pretty well, and should be able to put up a lot of points.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (L @ Aug 14 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: D.Harris/K.Lowry SG: K.Azubuike SF: R.Gay PF: A.Horford/J.Maxiell C: D.Milicic Excuse me if there are misspellings. </div> not really a great team especially if you compare it with other teams. Harris is solid, Gay should be an allstar this year and Hortford looks like he will be a star too. Lowry and Maxiell are good backups but you have huge holes at SG and C. Those two guys should not be starters in the league but rather the seventh or eighth guy off the bench. This team is going to have a lot of trouble scoring points. Gay is the only scorer and if teams lock down on him this team is in for a good lottery pick next year </div> So what you suggest? Move Horford to the C role and Maxiell to the starting pf role so Milicic can provide his shot blocking off the bench? I dont agree about Milicic not being a starting center when there are so few starting calbur ones. While I do agree that if the defense starts to put more pressure on Gay, the team will have a harder time scoring, but I believe Horford(post presence) and Harris(speed and slashing) can pick up the remaining load. Azubuike can play half and full court pretty well, whether he is using screens to get open for the 20 ftrs he can knock down consistently(and the 3) or using his athleticism on the fast break. I put Milicic into the starting unit for mostly rebounding, defense and shot blocking(and other forms of help defense). Sad to say his offense would mostly be tip ins and keeping the ball alive around the basket. Lowry and Maxiell should be able to keep pace with the right players on the bench. Essentially the three weapons I have on offense are Gay, Horford, and Harris. Two of which are near allstars. Azubuike and Milicic's jobs are basically to hit open shots(Azubuike) and tip-ins/ close range(Milicic). And they can play both half and full court offense(except Milicic, he sticks to half court). Defense, well, at best this team may be average. Harris is one of the better pgs when it comes to defense, and Horford, Milicic, Maxiell provide some decent frontcourt defense. Gay has length(he's 6'9") but I dont know much about him when it comes to defense. Azubuike is another one i dont know much about when it comes to his defense.
I think your defense is very good, actually, Horford and Darko should do well guarding anyone, and Harris can handle most points well. Gay is pretty good as well, i think. I don't know much about Azuibuke, but I think I've heard him called a good defender.
I just decided to go with balance. kk30 is right though when it comes to my sg and c being the weakest spots. Though I think Milicic is actually a starting center, an average one at best currently, Azubuike is only a bit above average. Nothing special but he is young(24) and has room to improve. I picked him because he improved his game rather well.
It's time to review some teams. Atlantic Division <u>Philadelphia 76ers - pegs</u> C: Dwight Howard PF: Drew Gooden SF: Joe Johnson SG: DeShawn Stevenson / Charlie Bell PG: Jameer Nelson Jameer Nelson is not the most dependable point guard, despite his fantastic performance in the playoffs. He can score, but he's not the greatest passer and has problems making the simplest post entry pass. If Howard was playing with a better passer on the Magic, he would be an absolute terror. Point guard has long been a weakness for the Magic, but Jameer Nelson isn't bad and Joe Johnson should be able to handle some of the playmaking load. Drew Gooden reminds me of the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man and I don't have the same opinion of Charlie Bell as others here do..he's nothing special and is not adequate as the first option off the bench. Outlook: Despite the fluffy game of Drew Gooden and Nelson's shortcomings in certain areas, Howard and Johnson will keep this team competitive. Stevenson will play strong defense while Nelson will score and provide some shooting. As long as the Sixers improve their bench, they should finish 2nd in the Atlantic. <u>Boston Celtics - jtballa2o1</u> C: Troy Murphy PF: Zach Randolph SF: Carmelo Anthony SG: Michael Redd / Raja Bell PG: Kirk Hinrich Zach Randolph is a cancer. He is a poison and no team with him is ever going to be successful. In Redd, Melo, and Randolph, the Celtics have 3 of the most selfish players at their positions. Hinrich is bound to bounce back from a poor season, Murphy is solid, and Bell is a good defender and 3 point shooter, but this team is going to struggle mightily as the 3 big names fight for shots. Outlook: Though Redd, Anthony, and Randolph are supremely talented offensive players, there is only one ball and the ball movement on this team will be atrocious. The Celtics will be plagued by selfishness and poor defense. No position higher than 5th in the Atlantic is realistic for this team. <u>New York Knicks - Real</u> C: Mehmet Okur PF: Kevin Love SF: Jason Kapono / Ryan Gomes SG: Josh Howard PG: Deron Williams / Sam Cassell Josh Howard cannot be a full time shooting guard. It just is not going to happen. Sam Cassell is absolutely finished and Kapono is best suited coming off the bench. Love is unproven and undersized, though immensely talented. Deron Williams is an absolutely fantastic player, but he is not going to be able to turn this into a competitor. This team will require Williams to do too much scoring and that will detract from his strengths as a playmaker. Outlook: Williams is a mega star at point guard, but this team is too flawed and not strong enough on either end to be very competitive. This is the 4th best team in the Atlantic. <u>New Jersey Nets - ZAE</u> C: Nick Collison / Joel Przybilla PF: Chris Bosh SF: Richard Jefferson SG: John Salmons / Ricky Davis PG: Chauncey Billups Bosh, Jefferson, and Billups is a decent core, though Billups is clearly on the decline and Jefferson's best days are behind him, despite his age. It's funny, because in 2004 the only wings that I would've taken ahead of RJ were LeBron, Pierce, and Anthony, and today there are a good 20 players at that position that are better options than him. Now he is a defenseless player with an inflated ego whose offensive game isn't nearly as good as his numbers suggest. Salmons is a very promising player. He is a good fit at guard and I'm a fan of Collison. Przybilla is a strong backup center and we know Davis can score, but he comes with baggage. Bosh is obviously an All-Star with a terrific face up game. Outlook: Average is the word that describes this team. Billups is a winner and a leader and Bosh is a star, but there is not enough for this to be one of the better teams. The Nets will be good for 3rd in the division. <u>Toronto Barneys - cpawfan</u> C: Eddy Curry PF: Kevin Garnett / Boris Diaw SF: Ron Artest / Jerry Stackhouse SG: Stephen Jackson PG: Rodney Stuckey Fantastic. Garnett, Artest, and Jackson make this a helluva defensive team. Stuckey is a great young guard that is going to thrive alongside these players. Stack is on his last legs but can still contribute. I've never cared much for Diaw, but he fits with this team. Curry will provide the low post scoring that Garnett will not. Outlook: This is easily the best team in the division and possibly the draft. The only concern I have other than Artest exploding is that there's no dependable go to scorer. KG is a small time performer and is always going to defer. Artest is certainly willing and capable, but he's too erratic of an offensive player for my liking. Jackson is willing, but I'm not sure he's capable. Nevertheless, this team is superb. 1st Atlantic. ..damn I'm bored.
really enjoyed the analysis Grand Kenyon but heres mine Philadelphia 76ers - pegs C: Dwight Howard PF: Drew Gooden SF: Joe Johnson SG: DeShawn Stevenson / Charlie Bell PG: Jameer Nelson Joe Johnson will not be that good playing the SF position. He'll still score but he'll be horrible defensively. This team I don't think put enough scorers to surround Dwight Howard. Basically you need kind of a big three in this league and it only has a big two. Nelson, Stevenson and Gooden all arn't going to give much more than 10 points and are very inconsistent. Outlook- Consistency will be a problem and this team will finish 4th Boston Celtics - jtballa2o1 C: Troy Murphy PF: Zach Randolph SF: Carmelo Anthony SG: Michael Redd / Raja Bell PG: Kirk Hinrich Very, very good offensive team but theres no way Randolph, Anthony and Redd can play together. Hinrich and Bell are both good defensively but 4/6 of the team does not know what defense is. outlook- This team will win games with scoring but will lose just as much with lack of defense. third place New York Knicks - Real C: Mehmet Okur PF: Kevin Love SF: Jason Kapono / Ryan Gomes SG: Josh Howard PG: Deron Williams / Sam Cassell I think this team is going to have a lot of trouble. Howard hasn't played that much shooting guard over his career and this team really only has two players to go to for offense. The front court is very weak with Okur and Love. Love is a rookie but i wouldn't expect that great numbers this year and Okur has never been a good rebounder or defender. Kapono is not a starter and Gomes is good but hes also not really a starter either. This team will like Pegs team also have a lot of trouble with consistency. Outlook- this team doesn't have much toughness besides Howard and Williams and Howard won't be as effective playing the two. Fifth place New Jersey Nets - ZAE C: Nick Collison / Joel Przybilla PF: Chris Bosh SF: Richard Jefferson SG: John Salmons / Ricky Davis PG: Chauncey Billups This team has a very good mix of leadership, defense and scoring. Bosh, Jefferson and Billups will mix nicely together as all are good leaders and defenders. I know Jefferson has slipped but that was mostly from lack of dedication do to the Nets losing record. Collison and Przybillia make up a good center tandem and Salmons is a good piece. Him and Ricky will split time which fives ZAE a balanced offense all around. Outlook- good team and it should really challenge for the first spot in the division. Everybody on the team knows how to play and they none have that big of an ego for stats. I know Jefferson if he had a choice would much rather focus on winning than on stats. Solid team Second place Toronto Barneys - cpawfan C: Eddy Curry PF: Kevin Garnett / Boris Diaw SF: Ron Artest / Jerry Stackhouse SG: Stephen Jackson PG: Rodney Stuckey This team is a great defensively team besides Eddy Curry but they won't need Curry to do much but take up space. This team is not "building around" Curry like the knicks. Artest and Jackson are insane people but they are good b-ball players defensively and offensively. Stuckey is not a good fit being hes a score first PG and not very experienced. Hes more of an energy guy at this point. KG is going to like this team it kind of reminds me of the KG, Spreewell and Cassel team that made the playoffs Outlook:This team is getting up their in age so this year may be their last run but anyhow the big three all know how to play defense and offense and that makes this team the best in the Atlantic. First Place
ok the jazz have: PG: Baron Davis SG: Ben Gordon / Mickael Pietrus SF: Yi Jianlian / Luke Walton PF: David West C : Brendan Haywood i think this is a solid team... but i wana know what you guys think
C: Nene Hilario/Brook Lopez PF: Marvin Williams SF: Tayshaun Prince SG: Brandon Roy / Michael Finley PG: Jerryd Bayless Ok, hows my team? I think I need more veteran experience.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Aug 14 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok the jazz have: PG: Baron Davis SG: Ben Gordon / Mickael Pietrus SF: Yi Jianlian / Luke Walton PF: David West C : Brendan Haywood i think this is a solid team... but i wana know what you guys think</div> I like your starters except for Yi, he's quick for a PF, but isn't quick enough to stay in front of SF's. I'd bench him behind West and get someone else in that slot.
