Croatia upset Russia after destroying Australia. Zoran stars in both, getting 12 in first game and 20 tonight. Croatia right now looks like a medal team and Zoran looks like the player the Nets thought they were getting in 2003. He has NBA opt-outs in his contract, the Nets have no rights to him. There are few players in the Olympics playing better than Zoran right now. Boxscore
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Aug 12 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that boy Roko Ukic</div> Ideal running mates.
when zoran was still with the nets he always played well in international competitions and we nets fans kept hoping he would have a better season with the nets...didn't happen...i for one wanted the tall combo of zoran and drejer to pan out it would have given us 2 incredibly versatile and very tall players...
Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> How many failed Nets draft picks went on to have a successful career in the NBA?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 13 2008, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> How many failed Nets draft picks went on to have a successful career in the NBA? </div> For reference - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Nets_draft_history Well, Eddie Griffin had a few good years. Before, well...Ya know. Anthony Parker, of course. <s>Brian Scalabrine won a ring.</s> Nevermind, he wasn't necessarily a "failed" draft pick. Hassan Adams just got a 2 year contract with Toronto, so we'll see what he can do. Other than that...nobody.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 13 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> How many failed Nets draft picks went on to have a successful career in the NBA? </div> Most of the players we are discussing in the Frank coaching era are all young so it is too soon to answer that. One thing is for sure I didnt think Zoran was that bad. He like many players Frank coachs are always put into a positon to fail. Wright got a contract extension with dallas, so he must be doing something right. No pun intended. Isnt Adams on the Raps. GS wanted M. Will. So we shall see what happenes to these three and if frank gets his way S. Will. If they become serviceable would that answer your question? I could answer your question by saying Korver but he didnt even have a change to not get Playing time with Frank.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 13 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> How many failed Nets draft picks went on to have a successful career in the NBA? </div> Most of the players we are discussing in the Frank coaching era are all young so it is too soon to answer that. One thing is for sure I didnt think Zoran was that bad. He like many players Frank coachs are always put into a positon to fail. Wright got a contract extension with dallas, so he must be doing something right. No pun intended. Isnt Adams on the Raps. GS wanted M. Will. So we shall see what happenes to these three and if frank gets his way S. Will. If they become serviceable would that answer your question? I could answer your question by saying Korver but he didnt even have a change to not get Playing time with Frank. </div> Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams haven't done anything yet. You can't even include them. Sean was given plenty of chances, but didn't take advantage of every chance...and it got to the point where he wasn't conditioned enough to handle the full season, and what he did on the court was a reflection of that. Wright is doing the same things in Dallas that he did on the Nets. It isn't our fault he sucks. And Zoran didn't do much of anything on the Nets. Maybe he just wasn't made for the NBA - similar to Carlos Arroyo, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Spanoulis in a way. They thrive in the international game, but just can't get used to the NBA game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, Parker and Griffin were traded and never played for the Nets.</div> Griffin did get a 2nd try with the Nets, though, but failed. Didn't realize that Parker was traded though
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 13 2008, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> How many failed Nets draft picks went on to have a successful career in the NBA? </div> Most of the players we are discussing in the Frank coaching era are all young so it is too soon to answer that. One thing is for sure I didnt think Zoran was that bad. He like many players Frank coachs are always put into a positon to fail. Wright got a contract extension with dallas, so he must be doing something right. No pun intended. Isnt Adams on the Raps. GS wanted M. Will. So we shall see what happenes to these three and if frank gets his way S. Will. If they become serviceable would that answer your question? I could answer your question by saying Korver but he didnt even have a change to not get Playing time with Frank. </div> Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams haven't done anything yet. You can't even include them. Sean was given plenty of chances, but didn't take advantage of every chance...and it got to the point where he wasn't conditioned enough to handle the full season, and what he did on the court was a reflection of that. Wright is doing the same things in Dallas that he did on the Nets. It isn't our fault he sucks. And Zoran didn't do much of anything on the Nets. Maybe he just wasn't made for the NBA - similar to Carlos Arroyo, Sarunas Jasikevicius, and Spanoulis in a way. They thrive in the international game, but just can't get used to the NBA game. </div> So I guess for you there isnt anything called rookie. I dont get this reasoning. As far as his conditioning that is also because he was a "Rookie". They also call it a "Rookie Wall". Everyone in the NBA gets a pass in their rookie year, but I guess for us it is unacceptable. Wright will be a bench player. Zoran will be an European player. Arroyo and Sarunas are better players then some we have drafted. Thorn has said it publicly that they have really done a bad job at player development.
meh, I really don't know what we would have done with zoran. He was weak and pretty slow. Below average defender, average ball handler, and I never really saw amazing court vision. Not to mention his jumper was god awful (did u ever SEE the "rotation" on that shot??!!!). What particular skill did he have while on the Nets that would have made him servicable even as a role palyer in the NBA?? I was never too upset to see him leave.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So I guess for you there isnt anything called rookie. I dont get this reasoning. As far as his conditioning that is also because he was a "Rookie". They also call it a "Rookie Wall". Everyone in the NBA gets a pass in their rookie year, but I guess for us it is unacceptable. Wright will be a bench player. Zoran will be an European player. Arroyo and Sarunas are better players then some we have drafted. Thorn has said it publicly that they have really done a bad job at player development.</div> Until I read the last line, I couldn't tell if you were arguing with me or agreeing with me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 13 2008, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please once again this is just an example of Frank's lack of youth development. IMO I think Zoran should never had been pressured to play the back up PG role. I always thought he was better suited coming off the bench to play SG. This is exactly the same situation with M. williams. Do he not pan out or is this coaching staff really bad at developing young talent?</div> Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Zoran wasn't anywhere near a good enough ball handler, shooter, or defender to EVER be anything more than a marginal NBA player. It had nothing to do with the coaching staff.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, Parker and Griffin were traded and never played for the Nets.</div> Griffin did get a 2nd try with the Nets, though, but failed. Didn't realize that Parker was traded though </div> I think it was Tim Thomas/Parker/extras for Van Horn. Funny how 11 years later, Parker is the most relevant player from that trade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 13 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Aug 13 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, Parker and Griffin were traded and never played for the Nets.</div> Griffin did get a 2nd try with the Nets, though, but failed. Didn't realize that Parker was traded though </div> Both traded on draft night. Parker was part of KVH draft night trade with Philly.
