<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 12 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Republican @ Aug 12 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yi is tooooooo cocky, that's not a good look</div> That's one thing that has concerned me. It's one thing to be put up on a pedestal for your achievements and another thing to be put on a pedestal by a whole nation for your potential. Yao didn't seem to buy into the hype and put his head down and worked and lived up to the potential. Believing the hype achieves your potential rather than hard work is often the down fall of most gifted athletes that fail. I hope that's not the case with Yi. If he has a strong work ethic he should be alright. </div> I concur with everything u said. And yi thinks he's already there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 12 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 12 2008, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Aug 12 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe has been awful in the past two games, are Laker fans ripping their hair out? Until I see Yi fail as a Net, I won't judge him as a player.</div> We already know Kobe as a player, he's the mvp and the best player on earth. Yi on the other hand had his chance with the Bucks, and now with his country where he should feel comfortable, being home and all, and still he can't show anything. He's just an average player. </div> Right now. The guy is 20, not 30 like Kobe. Relax, these games are not the end all be all of his entire career. </div> Yi's not 20. Reports are he's already 24 years old (in a Chinese newspaper, they said he was 23 before he was drafted) Anyways, Yi has been struggling but I wouldn't be going crazy about it. Although not consistently, Yi has shown he can play in the NBA. If I remember correctly, didn't he win East Rookie of the Month with the Bucks? Olympics are one thing, some players play better in International competition than others, Tim Duncan looked like crap in Athens, but I'm sure anyone would LOVE to have him on their team
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 12 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 12 2008, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 12 2008, 10:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Aug 12 2008, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe has been awful in the past two games, are Laker fans ripping their hair out? Until I see Yi fail as a Net, I won't judge him as a player.</div> We already know Kobe as a player, he's the mvp and the best player on earth. Yi on the other hand had his chance with the Bucks, and now with his country where he should feel comfortable, being home and all, and still he can't show anything. He's just an average player. </div> Right now. The guy is 20, not 30 like Kobe. Relax, these games are not the end all be all of his entire career. </div> Yi's not 20. Reports are he's already 24 years old (in a Chinese newspaper, they said he was 23 before he was drafted) Anyways, Yi has been struggling but I wouldn't be going crazy about it. Although not consistently, Yi has shown he can play in the NBA. If I remember correctly, didn't he win East Rookie of the Month with the Bucks? Olympics are one thing, some players play better in International competition than others, Tim Duncan looked like crap in Athens, but I'm sure anyone would LOVE to have him on their team </div> Reports vary on that. I'm giving him benefit of the doubt for now. That Chinese newspaper wouldn't be the first paper to get a number wrong. Good point on Duncan sucking in the Olympics.
On another note, Carlos Arroyo looked like Steve Nash against the USa int he 2004 Olympics and right now I'm sure no one wants him on their team.
You ever think that the pressure of having Hu Jintao and a billion people expecting you to step up and help lead your team to victory in the Olympics in your home country got to him?
he sucks at the game. if he can do even a little better, China will win. I kind of happy I didnt got up at 4 this morning. all other Chinese player play really well, they show what they can do and should walk out proud even lose the game,
this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> Remember: the Olympics is not the end-all for a players' NBA career. I have faith that once Yi is put into Lawrence Frank's system - the one that Nenad flourished in - alongside Vince, who is great at the pick and roll, Yi should do just fine.
I think someone told Yi not to get hurt in the Olympics at all cost. If you look at it from this perspective it makes sense. Yi already gave up on the Olympics, there is no way China will medal. Yao is playing like a crazy man out there. He almost got hurt quite a few times. Also, I don't think Yi gets along with Yao. Plus, the coach for China screwed up big time today. Yao wasn't physically ready to play and it was poor execution focusing on Yao on offense, causing many turnovers. don't know what else to say. how hard should a guy play when he knows he's going to lose? how should we judge that player?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> The only way Frank does this is if Frank is committed to change his system. When did frank give young guys an opportunity regardless of their production.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 12 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> Remember: the Olympics is not the end-all for a players' NBA career. I have faith that once Yi is put into Lawrence Frank's system - the one that Nenad flourished in - alongside Vince, who is great at the pick and roll, Yi should do just fine. </div> Am I the only one that has little confidence in Frank's system? Nenad flourished because he had a low post game. It was needed because there was no one else to score in the post. Did frank even run plays for Nenad? Like I said before, If frank changes his philosphy about playing young guys Yi will be ok. If frank wants to bench them everytime the make a mistake, We are doomed. Our current young guys like those before, Zoran, Wright, M. Williams, Boone(turning the corner), S. Williams(too soon to say), Armstrong, and Adams, will never develop under his system.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 12 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> The only way Frank does this is if Frank is committed to change his system. When did frank give young guys an opportunity regardless of their production. </div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 12 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 12 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> Remember: the Olympics is not the end-all for a players' NBA career. I have faith that once Yi is put into Lawrence Frank's system - the one that Nenad flourished in - alongside Vince, who is great at the pick and roll, Yi should do just fine. </div> Am I the only one that has little confidence in Frank's system? Nenad flourished because he had a low post game. It was needed because there was no one else to score in the post. Did frank even run plays for Nenad? Like I said before, If frank changes his philosphy about playing young guys Yi will be ok. If frank wants to bench them everytime the make a mistake, We are doomed. Our current young guys like those before, Zoran, Wright, M. Williams, Boone(turning the corner), S. Williams(too soon to say), Armstrong, and Adams, will never develop under his system. </div> I don't really know what you're talking about. When Nenad first came to the Nets, his post game was pretty raw. But he was the best shooter on the team. I remember Frank constantly posting up Nenad, running pick and rolls with him. He did run plays for Nenad, and he was and still is a young player. Frank should have to change very little to implement Yi into his system. Yi is the best scorer of all of our big men, and if we want to have any chance to win any games, Frank will need to use Yi and use him correctly. Once again, I believe that if Frank runs the plays he ran with Nenad, and gets in plenty of pick & rolls with Vince and Yi, then Yi should do fine.
It's been made that China has the team concept thing grasped....all wrong. Sort of like the anti US. US shoulld play more like China while China should play more like the US to basically get more from what they have. I like Yao down low and Yi in the high post, creating an inside outside type game. This allows Yi the ability to playmake, decide on dumping it down low, take a quick jumper or drive by rushing defender. I would think given the spread nature of the NBA game, Yi will be more effective then in the Olympics. China's coaching system is right now in the development stage. I think in the end, Yi's talent will never be fully tapped because of China's system. It's not a bad thing, I still think he can score 20 a night over 82. I don't think Shaq has fully tapped his talent and that's because of off court projects. On the flip side, I think guy's like Dirk/Duncan have fully tapped their abilities.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Aug 12 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 12 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SUPERB @ Aug 12 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>this guy better step up or we are in for a long season. frank is going to be forced to play this guy no matter what his production looks like, remember that.</div> Remember: the Olympics is not the end-all for a players' NBA career. I have faith that once Yi is put into Lawrence Frank's system - the one that Nenad flourished in - alongside Vince, who is great at the pick and roll, Yi should do just fine. </div> Am I the only one that has little confidence in Frank's system? Nenad flourished because he had a low post game. It was needed because there was no one else to score in the post. Did frank even run plays for Nenad? Like I said before, If frank changes his philosphy about playing young guys Yi will be ok. If frank wants to bench them everytime the make a mistake, We are doomed. Our current young guys like those before, Zoran, Wright, M. Williams, Boone(turning the corner), S. Williams(too soon to say), Armstrong, and Adams, will never develop under his system. </div> Yeah, he ran a ton of plays for Nenad. A lot of pick and pop but also post feeds as well.
We have a system? If the quote by Vince Carter holds up (That there's another new offense) that makes 4 new offensive systems in just as many years (or one more) "feed the hot hand" iso/pick and roll motion 2008?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Aug 12 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We have a system? If the quote by Vince Carter holds up (That there's another new offense) that makes 4 new offensive systems in just as many years (or one more) "feed the hot hand" iso/pick and roll motion 2008?</div> LMAO!!!!!!!!
WHATA BUST wheres all the people who made excuses that he played the best talent in the world? bigs like dwight howard now what dudes a bust plain and simple
bigs like Pau Gasol now what and what the hell, this guy plays against the two top teams in the world and we've forever doomed him? Two games!? God have mercy if those that are naysayers are still Marcus Williams supporters; then you have no excuses and you'll be on my list
Oh by the way, yeah he's had two subpar games, but he got to where he is now by being a great player in China, and a promising rookie in the NBA. So before you guys go jump off the Izod center clutching your RJ jerseys, keep in mind that you're comparing a career to what's happened over this weekend.
http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=534 Here's a nice compendium of what David Thorpe, author of ESPN's Rookie Report, wrote about Yi last year. Thorpe, who also trains NBA players, loves him. There's also some nice highlights, including his two biggest games, his slam over Sean Williams, and a few others. Yi says he is 20. His passport says he is 20. FIBA says he is 20. Unless proven otherwise, you have to accept that he is 20.
