This is a very interesting read especially for Obama supporters who are pro-life. I encourage everyone to read the full article via the link below. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama rolled up more than 90 percent of the African-American vote. Among Catholics, he lost by 40 points. The cool liberal Harvard Law grad was not a good fit for the socially conservative ethnics of Altoona, Aliquippa and Johnstown. But if Barack had a problem with Catholics then, he has a far higher hurdle to surmount in the fall, with those millions of Catholics who still take their faith and moral code seriously. For not only is Barack the most pro-abortion member of the Senate, with his straight A+ report card from the National Abortion Rights Action League and Planned Parenthood. He supports the late-term procedure known as partial-birth abortion, where the baby's skull is stabbed with scissors in the birth canal and the brains are sucked out to end its life swiftly and ease passage of the corpse into the pan. Partial-birth abortion, said the late Sen. Pat Moynihan, "comes as close to infanticide as anything I have seen in our judiciary." Yet, when Congress was voting to ban this terrible form of death for a mature fetus, Michelle Obama was signing fundraising letters pledging that, if elected, Barack would be "tireless" in keeping legal this "legitimate medical procedure." And Barack did not let the militants down. When the Supreme Court upheld the congressional ban on this barbaric procedure, Barack denounced the court for denying "equal rights for women." As David Freddoso reports in his new best-seller, "The Case Against Barack Obama," the Illinois senator goes further than any U.S. senator has dared go in defending what John Paul II called the "culture of death." Thrice in the Illinois legislature, Obama helped block a bill that was designed solely to protect the life of infants already born, and outside the womb, who had miraculously survived the attempt to kill them during an abortion. Thrice, Obama voted to let doctors and nurses allow these tiny human beings die of neglect and be tossed out with the medical waste.</div> Full Article
Bush carried the Catholic vote against Mr. Catholic himself John Kerry in '04. And there are a lot of Catholics who aren't religious and follow the Church's stances on, say, pre-marital sex for example that voted for Bush. A lot of them don't even go to Church. They just won't vote for candidates that support things such as abortion, gay marriage, etc.
I was a big fan of Moynihan, RIP. The partial birth abortion procedure should not be banned, but should be used in only very rare circumstances. Like the absolute life of the mother. If they want to pass a law restricting its use, I'd probably favor it. Eliminating it? Not so sure.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 12 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was a big fan of Moynihan, RIP. The partial birth abortion procedure should not be banned, but should be used in only very rare circumstances. Like the absolute life of the mother. If they want to pass a law restricting its use, I'd probably favor it. Eliminating it? Not so sure.</div> Yes this is my view too. What I heard was that Obama doesn't support the complete elimination of the procedure because it sounded unconstitutional to him. I would certainly not want for it to be used without discretion, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 12 2008, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was a big fan of Moynihan, RIP. The partial birth abortion procedure should not be banned, but should be used in only very rare circumstances. Like the absolute life of the mother. If they want to pass a law restricting its use, I'd probably favor it. Eliminating it? Not so sure.</div> Same opinion here.
still never understood the "fight" against abortion. it's a personal choice that government should have nothing to do with.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Aug 12 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>still never understood the "fight" against abortion. it's a personal choice that government should have nothing to do with.</div> It's quite simple on the face of it. If you believe life begins at conception, then the 1.5M abortions per year represents the most horrible genocides in history. (It does in terms of numbers)
I agree, life begins at the conception. Still, it's a personal choice that the woman, or couple, would have to deal with their entire lives afterwards. They are non-criminal murderers, basically.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Aug 14 2008, 06:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree, life begins at the conception. Still, it's a personal choice that the woman, or couple, would have to deal with their entire lives afterwards. They are non-criminal murderers, basically.</div> I agree 100%.
I'd be interested to hear Obama's opinion on partial birth abortion and what circumstances he approves of it. I think it is beneficial in the cases of rape and incest. I don't agree with abortion as a means of hiding from responsibility.
