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  1. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    Because there is no such thing as a second round pick salary scale or any contracts that they are bound to. 2nd round picks are free to sign a contract for any value up to the maximum that a team has cap space or an exception for.

    The Veteran Minimum exception has dollar amounts for players of every level of NBA experience, from 0 years on up.
     
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    Please read the addendum to my post, and tell me if Nets had to reach into their MLE to sign CDR.

    Also, realize that if a team signs an undrafted player, they can pay him the zero year minimum salary, but it would count as the one year minimum salary as far as luxury tax is concerned.
     
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    Right, that comes out of exceptions. But if CDR has a figure like others, that won't be part of the MLE.

    -Petey
     
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    Which brings me back to my original question, why would CDR's salary have to come out of Nets MLE, as NI stated Kerber reported?
     
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    Actually it would count at the 2 year amount for luxury tax calculations. Also, it doesn't matter if the player was drafted or not.
     
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    Which brings me back to my post were I said Kerber is wrong
     
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    It's nice when we agree, isn't it?
     
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    I assume you are mean a player with one years experience, and I mean a player entering his 2nd NBA season, which would be the same thing.

    Also, are you suggesting that CDR will cost the Nets the salary of a player with one years NBA experience as they approach the luxury tax level?
     
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    No, I mean someone that has played in 2 NBA seasons like I said. Here is the quote from Coon's FAQ.

    The year of vets min a player qualifies for is based upon the # of previous seasons played in. A player entering their 2nd NBA season would be at the 1 year Vet Min amount.

    No I'm not. I'm stating that if the Nets somehow ended up as a luxury tax payer (which they won't), his salary would count at $797,581.

    The reason for the 2 year figure is that veterans on min deals that have more than 2 years experience the league reimburses teams for the difference between that amount and the 2 year amount.
     
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    You are correct about the two-year min salary. However, it would not apply to CDR as he is a draft pick, and it's his actual 1st year salary that will count towards the luxury tax, which the Nets will probably not cross for a few reasons, one of which is Ratner will not permit it.

    Also, as to 2nd round picks being signed for the Vets' Min, you are incorrect. A Vets' Min contract can only be for a maximum of two years. 2nd round picks can be signed for 3 years (or maybe even longer. Of that I'm not sure), as CDR has.
     
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    Coon is talking about first round picks. As it is possible for late first round picks to be under the 2 yr min if they accept a contract at 80% of scale.

    No, it happens all of the time. Second round picks have no cap hold on a team before they are signed to a contract unlike first round picks. All a second round pick does is give a team exclusive negotiating rights with a player who is otherwise like a free agent in the league's eyes.

    Second round picks can be signed for any length of time between 1 year and 5 years. Yes, if a second round pick signs a contract longer than 2 years (which I forgot CDR did) then it would require using cap space or MLE or BAE.

    OMG, Kerber was actually correct about something (even though he had no clue as to why).
     
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    Coon says 'draft picks', not 'first round draft picks'
     
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    I read the actual CBA before I read Coon. The CBA is specifically talking about players playing for minimum contracts. First round draft picks don't play for min contracts.
     
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    I just read the CBA and it reads 'a rookie (but not a 2nd rd pick), or a player with one years service'.
     
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    Link?

    Article and Section?
     
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    III-Salary Cap and Related Rules:E) Minimum Salary Players
     
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    Article III is PLAYER EXPENSES

    Article VII is BASKETBALL RELATED INCOME, SALARY CAP, MINIMUM TEAM SALARY, AND ESCROW ARRANGEMENT

    So which is it?
     
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    Google 'nba cba, 2nd round picks contracts'.

    Then click onto 'InsideHoops-NBA-CBA, NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement'.

    I thought you said you read the CBA.
     
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    That isn't the CBA. That is something insidehoops put together.

    This is the official site for the CBA http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles.php
     
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    So where does it say this in the CBA?
     

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