Pirates take on Boras to sign Pedro Alvarez

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    With the Pirates under new management this year, they didn't back away from selecting a Scott Boras client in the draft. In years past, there is no way the Pirates would have risked selecting Pedro Alvarez from Vanderbilt because of his agent. However, with new management (Robert Nutting as majority owner, Frank Coonelly as team president and Neal Huntington as GM) and the new rule that allows teams that don't sign first or second round picks by August 15 to receive a pick at the same slot plus one the following year the Pirates weren't frightened of Boras.

    As expected, negotiations for Alvarez's contract went down to the deadline with Boras wanting a huge signing bonus and a major league contract. The Pirates never changed their position of a six million dollar signing bonus and a minor league contract (there are some reports that suggest that the Pirates started at five million and then increased it). Right before the midnight deadline, Alvarez said that he accepted the offer and the deal was announced the next day.

    However, he was never introduced to the media and fans with the Pirates claiming that there were travel problems. As it turns out, the Pirates were simply attempting to shield him from the wrath of the fans as Boras was working behind the scenes to get the deal overturned. So that leads us to the current situation, where the players union is going to an arbitrator against MLB for how it handled the contract agreement of Alvarez.

    In the following posts, I'll try to find as many articles as I can on the subject to give the picture of this significant and potentially groundbreaking case. While Boras is making this about Alvarez, the heart of the players union complaint is MLB deciding that the deadline for contract negotiations can be arbitrarily extended.
     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    Dejan Kovacevic is the Pirates beat writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and he has been all over this story from the beginning.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08243/908243-63.stm

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08242/907865-63.stm

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    Because of everything going on, the Royals are also impacted.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3560734&name=olney_buster

    This is Buster Olney via insider, so I can only quote a very small amount

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    Another insider piece from ESPN senior writer Rob Neyer

    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3557256&name=Neyer_Rob

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    From the Kansas City Star

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/774033.html

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    Peter Gammons chimes in

    http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3559033&searchName=gammons_peter

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    From Pittsburgh's other paper, the Tribune-Review

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/pirates/s_585259.html

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    Vanderbilt's baseball coach says Alvarez likely couldn't play next season in college

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08242/907914-63.stm

     
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    Re: Pirates take on Boras

    A good read from Baseball Prospectus
    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8012

     
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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08252/910287-63.stm

    A minor update as this case appears to be getting more complicated

     
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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08253/910716-63.stm

     
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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08254/910790-63.stm

     
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    thanks for continually updating this; I am finding it good reading, especially the baseball prospectus article.
     
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    I'm glad you're enjoying it Dumpy. I find it fascinating and am very glad to see the Pirates finally have a backbone. Such as the 2007 draft where Littlefield took Daniel Moskos over Boras client Matt Wieters. Oh yeah, Baseball America named him 2008 Minor League Player of Year
     
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    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3576082

    ESPN's Jerry Crasnick wrote about Boras, Alvarez and the Pirates

     
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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08255/911174-63.stm

     
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    Here is an outside opinion on Boras Rick Hurd of the Contra Costa Times

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/rickhurd/ci_10400770

     
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    http://www.contracostatimes.com/giants/ci_10440934

    Here is Hurd's follow up article after Boras called him

     
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    He's correct that the compensation system is skewed, especially with regard to minorities. Anyone who has read how the yankees screwed with Brien Taylor knows this.

    Boras is a creation of the owners, who are the biggest slime involved in baseball. It's unfortunate that the losers in this is the poorer, small-market teams taht are generally forced to pass up superior talents. This has gone on for years; allegedly the Indians didn't select Joe Morgan #1 because they knew they couldn't afford to pay his demands. What needs to happen is what has happened in basketball: for there to be pre-defined salaries for a player's first few years.
     

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