FoxNews Is Losing My Viewership

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  1. ABM

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    ...to some degree.

    They don't broadcast in high-def. What's up with that?!
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    Their business channel is in hi def. It is lame that the news isn't.
     
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    CNN seems to have less of an agenda than the other two. I watch that 90% of the time.
     
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    No hi-def for Fox? That's odd. I figured every mainstream network would broadcast in hi-def in preparation for the changeover in Feb, 2009.

    As for balance, IMO Fox is less to the right than MSNBC is to the left with CNN in the middle, just a bit left-of-center. My favorite political analysts are on MSNBC (I really like Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd and I desperately miss Tim Russert) and FOX (I think Juan Williams is just fantastic), but CNN offers the most balanced coverage.
     
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    I can't stand CNN myself. The take a shot at McCain and the Republicans every chance they get. Even if you ask one of their analyst about something that doesn't have to do with politics, they'll manage to insert something bad about McCain in the answer.


    But yeah it's weird FoxNews is not HD.
     
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    I wish (no sarcasm), but that doesn't seem to be the case from the programs I've seen. Aside from Glenn Beck (lolz), there seems to be a clear bias.

    I still enjoy that channel though, of course.
     
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    I happen to think its funny when they do that. :wink:
     
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    So you think CNN is more biased than MSNBC and Fox? :crazy:
     
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    What is crazy? I didn't say I like Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann, I'm talking about an entire network.

    I'm voting for Barry but I'm not going to definitively say that they are THAT much less biased. We're splitting hairs in my opinion.

    :[

    Whether you find Fox offensive or not, I wouldn't just nonchalantly say they are more biased. I'd have to do a more detailed analysis.
     
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    I watch Fox a lot, actually. Especially O'Reilly. I find him hilarious, sometimes laughing at him, sometimes with him. But I don't even think they try to fool anybody about being "fair and balanced" anymore. What they're doing works well for them.
     
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    I watch CNN on election night and see some comparable BS as well.
     
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    The only real opinion based host they have is Dobbs, who used to be Republican. You can't honestly say you think Wolf Blitzer and Anderson Cooper have an agenda.
     
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    They don't need KO style shows to be biased, and intelligent/charming people are biased all the time.
     
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    I watched the Ballot Bowl program today and it was pretty stunning how unbalanced the coverage was. The whole show was nothing but bashing Palin and talking up Obama and Biden.

    It's a really important fact to this race that Palin didn't actually sell the governor's jet on E-Bay like she claimed. She put it up for sale on E-Bay and then sold it some other way. She's such a liar!

    (and I thought it was a joke she was making, like the lipstick one, about selling the jet on E-Bay all along).
     
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    I love Liberal Bias sometimes, but it is what it is.
     
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    A tale of CNN's bias.

    Obama campaign sends 30 lawyers and op researchers to Alaska with suitcases full of money (figuratively). The campaign denies it, but it's hard to believe that lie.

    Over the course of the past week or so, they've been able to organize a few hundred of the 20% that don't like Palin.

    They have a rally somewhere, and CNN covers it. They claim there's 1500 people in the rally. They interview 3 women who say "don't vote for McCain/Palin."

    They record this "piece" and show it on the air numerous times during the day.

    It serves as both a propaganda hit piece and an unpaid for Obama negative ad.

    This is just today's example.
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    To be fair, they run this piece by the dirtbag named Glenn Beck (though the accuracy of the content is good) on their WWW site. Note the disclaimer at the end - don't want to upset the CNN faithful :)

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/?iref=mpstoryview

    Commentary: The Sarah Palin smear-fest

    NEW YORK (CNN) -- Campaigns are ugly. Watching the way politicians act makes you long for the respect and self-control of the Sopranos. Throughout, there are legitimate attacks and outright lies.

    Every once in a while, I get a call on my radio show from someone telling me that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim, who admitted it in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, and has a fake birth certificate. No, no, and no. As I tell them, there are legitimate reasons not to vote for Barack Obama, no need to make them up.

    But the newest target is Sarah Palin. Let's take a quick look at just a fraction of what she has faced in her first few days as John McCain's choice for vice president.

    "Sarah Palin believes God told her to go to war with Iraq!"


    There has been some hard-core journalistic malpractice on this one. The Associated Press ran this headline about a speech she gave at her church: "Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God'"

    In the story, they omit the first part of the sentence they're quoting along with the entire previous sentence for good measure.
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    Here are her actual words: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

    Palin is clearly praying that we're doing the right thing in Iraq, something sensible for an introspective woman of faith concerned about the lives of our troops to do. She's not saying that she just received a text message from heaven's BlackBerry ordering her to launch missiles. Sorry to disappoint you.

    And for those of you who think politicians asking God for guidance is offensive, might I remind you of this famous politician's prayer:

    "Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will." --Barack Obama

    "She has no experience!"


    It's fair to assume that Barack Obama believed he was qualified to be in the White House when he announced he was running for president. At that point, he had been a U.S. Senator for 767 days. When Sarah Palin was announced as a vice presidential candidate, she had been the governor of Alaska for 634 days.

    While I'm sure those extra 133 days were filled with personal discovery, I can't imagine anyone seriously trying to make the case that Obama is experienced and Palin isn't.

    Unless, of course, you're Matt Damon, who said a Palin presidency would be a really "scary thing" because she has been "governor of Alaska for...for less than two years!" (Damon originally expressed his presidential preference for Obama in December 2006, when he had been a senator for less than two years.)

    More importantly, Palin's career has been filled with executive experience. She's the only one of the four in this race who has run a business, town, and/or state (a state that gives her crucial energy experience in the middle of an energy crisis).

    When Obama's campaign complains that Palin would be one heartbeat away from the presidency, they should consider that their candidate would be zero heartbeats away.

    "But Obama is running a huge campaign -- Palin was just a small town mayor!"


    Believe it or not, this one was actually trotted out by Obama himself.

    "My understanding is, is that Gov. Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We've got 2,500 in this campaign. I think the budget is maybe $12 million a year. We have a budget of about three times that just for the month."

    Apparently, Barack missed that she's become the governor of Alaska in the interim. Why would he compare his current duties with her former duties?

    Well, since he announced his candidacy, Barack Obama has raised about $22 million a month. That's a large organization for sure, unless you are directly comparing it to Sarah Palin, who is handling state revenues that are about 61 times as large, or more than $1.3 billion per month.

    "Palin only supports abstinence to be taught in sex-ed!"


    This claim is usually followed by a super classy comment about her daughter and the use of contraception, but the premise is false. Palin hasn't said she doesn't want condoms discussed in sex-ed, calling their discussion "relatively benign."

    "I'm pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don't have a problem with that," Palin said. Hers is hardly an extreme point of view in America today.

    "If she cares about children with special needs, then why did she cut spending on them by 62 percent?"


    Actually, Palin almost tripled their funding in only three years from $26,900 per student to $73,840 per student.
    Incidentally, the amount of government money you spend on a specific group doesn't equal the amount you care for that group, but that's another story for another column.

    All of these represent just a small percentage of the bizarre collection of claims being thrown at Palin by her opponents and some in the media -- who are desperately hoping something will stick. I leave you with my favorite so far: The Internet rumors that she harbors racism against Eskimos. If true, she sure has a strange way of expressing it -- her husband, Todd, is half Yupik Inuit Eskimo.

    To balance that out, she must really love his other half.

    The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of the writer.
     
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    I like Glenn Beck. I don't agree with much of what he says, but he is far less annoying than the other guys. There's a tendency these days to just listen to commentators with views that are the same as yours, and to ignore everyone else. Beck does a good job of expressing conservative views without being aggressively angry.
     

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