Obama Opens Up 4 Point Lead in Virginia

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  1. Денг Гордон

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    He has $87 million on hand right now. It's amazing he has more on hand money right now than McCain has had since the end of the RNC. I can only imagine that the fund raising will ramp up even more as the election nears. A $100 million month would be great news.

    It doesn't seem like Obama is spending his money too much right now. Definitely a lot less than McCain at this point in the race. I think Obama is just saving his money, and he's going to just go all out from the first debate on.

    He should have around $200 million to spend over the final stretch of this election.
     
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    I hope you're right.

    And welcome to S2.
     
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    I see Obama and McCain ads constantly on TV here, especially the local channels. I'm sure they're spending quite a bit on those. On the dish channels, too.
     
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    The Boston stations are running Obama and McCain ads like crazy, since most of NH voters live in the Boston TV market.
     
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    September 16, 2008 - 6:31am
    Quinnipiac poll: Obama has razor-thin lead in N.J.; McCain trails by just 3 points
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    Category: PresidentTags: John McCain, Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, Joe Biden, Clay Richards, poll, Quinnipiac, Marist, FDU, Fairleigh Dickinson, Gannett, Monmouth

    The contest between Barack Obama and John McCain in New Jersey is too close to call, with a new Quinnipiac University poll showing the battle for the state's fifteen electoral votes at 48%-45% among likely voters. Obama led McCain by ten percentage points, 51%-41% in an August Quinnipiac poll.

    This is the fourth independent poll within the last week to show New Jersey as an emerging battleground state in the presidential campaign. A Monmouth University/New Jersey poll released this morning shows Obama leading by 8 points, and a Marist College poll released Friday night had identical numbers to Quinnipiac, 48%-45%. A Fairleigh Dickinson University poll from last week had Obama up by six points.

    “The McCain-Palin ticket has narrowed the gap dramatically, but it will take more than this post convention bounce for the Republicans to win in true blue New Jersey. The upcoming debates probably will provide a clue to whether Sen. McCain can build on his current momentum, or whether the tide will turn back to the Democrats,” said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

    McCain's surge has come primarily from white voters, the poll says. White voters back McCain 56%-36% -- up from 50%-42% in August, while Black voters, by a 93%-7% margin, are voting for Obama -- up from 94%-1%. McCain leads among men (53%-40%), while Obama is ahead 54%-38% among women. But white women back McCain 50%-42% (46%-44% in August). Among independents, the lead has shifted from Obama (45%-42%0 to McCain (47%-43%).

    In New Jersey, Obama has a 56%-34% favorable rating, while McCain is at 56%-35%. GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is at 42%-32%, while Joe Biden, the Democratic VP candidate, is at 48%-25%. Nearly six out of ten New Jersey voters (58%) say McCain's choice of Palin was a good one, while 59% say Obama made a good pick in Biden.

    “In addition to the Palin bounce, Republicans seem to be scoring points with their attacks on the Obama tax plan,” Richards said.

    The economy is the most important issue for New Jersey voters, followed by Iraq (13%), terrorism(10%), health care (9%), and energy policy (8%). New Jerseyans say Obama has a better understanding of the economy (48%-43%), but that McCain better understands foreign policy (64%-27%).

    By a 32%-28% margin, N.J. voters say they will be better off if Obama is elected. But more than half (54%) say their taxes will go up if Obama is elected, compared to 34 percent who expect a tax hike in a McCain administration. More than four out of ten voters (44%) believe McCain’s claim that Obama will raise taxes on most American families, while 40% say Obama’s claim that he will cut taxes for 95 percent of working families.

    "This is a very strong poll for Senator McCain and Governor Palin. But polls go up and down and we are staying focused on our grass roots door to door campaign," said State Sen. Bill Baroni (R-Hamilton), McCain's New Jersey campaign chairman. "This poll shows two things. First, New Jerseyans are clearly seeing that Senator McCain and Governor Palin are the nations leading reformers at a time that Washington deperately needs reform. And second, that our grass roots door to door campaign, is clearly connecting with New Jersey voters."

    Baroni predicts "a close election night in New Jersey."

    "The recent series of polls, all showing Barack Obama leading, nonetheless reminds New Jersey Democrats we have much work to do to be sucessful in November," said Assemblyman Joseph Cryan (D-Union), the Democratic State Chairman. "With so much at stake -- the economy, the war, healthcare for the uninsured -- Democrats will deliver the state for Barack Obama with room to spare."

    Andrew Poag, the Communications Director of Obama's New Jersey campaign, agrees.

    “As our unprecedented grassroots voter outreach program indicates, the enthusiasm for Barack Obama here in New Jersey is overwhelming. One reason so many New Jerseyans are volunteering in such great numbers is that they know another four years of the failed George W. Bush policies that John McCain is proposing won’t fix this economy and won’t bring us the change we need," said Poag.

    From September 10 – 14, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,187 New Jersey likely voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent.

    http://www.politickernj.com/editor/23521/quinnipiac-poll-obama-has-razor-thin-lead-nj-mccain-trails-just-3-points
     
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    I highly doubt Hillary wants to be associated with Obama. She did her part to "unite" the party at the DNC but I imagine she realizes the epic failure an Obama administration will be and will not want to be tied to him. She's set herself up perfectly to run in 2012 and won't want to risk too close of an association with Barack.
     
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    Campaigning for him doesn't do much to associate her with him for a future election.

    And my guess, if she runs in 2016 (or 2012 if Obama only chooses one term), she will likely want to be associated. Take on a ton of black support from Obama, rally the feminazi's, and she will be on her way to an easy victory.
     
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    Not campaigning for him would probably have the same effect, she'd be considered a sore loser and unwilling to work for the party which would be catastrophic, however being a Cabinet member would be a different story.

    Imo there is no way Obama would secure his parties nomination for a second term, that is IF he's elected, remember theres 49 days left and contrary to what MSNBC will have you believe, this isn't over by any means.
     
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    Hillary wanted VP, and she would have made the election a lock for Obama.
     
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    Source?
     
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    You're serious? I don't like getting sources in order to prove the sky has clouds.
     
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    Uhh, yeah I was. I haven't seen anything that has said that other than pure speculation. Not being a smart ass, I'd like to see it if it's out there.
     
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    It was on all three major news networks that they met on a few occasions and spoke about vetting Bill/Hillary(which they used as a pretext against her). For example, Biden wanted to be VP but he couldn't shout it from the rooftops before Obama had made his decision, it would be bad for the party. But to anyone following the process, it was quite obvious Hill wanted the position.
     
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    Regarding to a Wisconsin comment in this thread. I live in Wisconsin. This is arguably the closest race in the country. It was I think in 04 so it's a clear toss up. It's pretty split here and it's always has been. Not saying I know for sure or anything but that's just the feeling you get in the area and the state.

    Thing about Virginia and Ohio. Obama and the democrats have registered hundreds of thousands of new voters in those two states. I heard this on the news. All this polling is kind of full of flaws since they all might not take that into account. If those voters turnout then Obama could win by a good margin in both states. Virginia is so tough though because it hasn't gone blue since LBJ.
     
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    Obama's organization will easily get the vote out in large numbers in Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha, and Madison, that he shouldn't have too much trouble beating McCain.
     
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    Correct. The southern part of the state is mostly democratic but we're still a really rural state and a lot of those people are republican. I think Obama will probably win the state but it's going to be close.
     
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    It'll be close, but not close. I think Obama will win by at least 3 or 4 points. It won't be close like 2000 (third closest state) and 2004 (closest state).

    Although Obama underpolled in Wisconsin during the primary season, so it is also possible that Obama is getting underpolled again during the general election. Obama's just has great organization in Wisconsin, and I think that "rockstar" tour he did of Wisconsin for a week (and then multiple repeat visits since) has helped him a bunch in the state.
     
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    The big whammy of all polls came out today from SurveyUSA. SurveyUSA is the 2nd most reliable pollster behind Selzer and Co.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=7bd0cddb-f8eb-4a1d-9cbd-3a481b87bf37

    Obama 51 McCain 45 in Virginia.

    Male: Obama 46 McCain 50
    Female: Obama 55 McCain 39
    White: Obama 40 McCain 55
    Black: Obama 86 McCain 14
    Republican: Obama 10 McCain 87
    Democrat: Obama 91 McCain 8
    Independents: Obama 45 McCain 48

    Obama, so far has been able to unify Democrats in a way that John Kerry and Al Gore couldn't. The consolidation of democrats behind Obama has been what has been behind this big national turnaround, and I think Hillary Clinton is helping a ton in that department.

    The bad news for McCain, has to be that blacks number. That number is going to become at least 90% for Obama on election day, so Obama's lead is being undercut in this poll as the result of a reverse-Bradley effect.
     
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    McCain on the Palin pick: DOH!

    ABC News / Washington Post
    9/18-21/08; 857 RV, 698 LV, 3.5%
    Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
    (ABC story, results; Post story, results)

    Virginia

    Likely Voters:
    Obama 49, McCain 46

    Registered Voters:
    Obama 50, McCain 44
     
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    Election 2008: Virginia Presidential Election
    McCain Ahead Again in Virginia, 50% to 48%
    Monday, September 22, 2008
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    John McCain has regained his modest lead in Virginia, where he now bests Barack Obama 50% to 48% in the latest Fox News/Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state.

    A week ago, the race was tied at 48% apiece. Two weeks ago, it was McCain 49% and Obama 47%.

    Neither candidate has led the race by more than two percentage points since June, making the historically Republican state one of the biggest toss-ups in this year’s election. However, this marks the first time McCain has reached the 50% level since March.

    In the survey taken Sunday night, McCain has regained the lead among unaffiliated voters he had two weeks ago. He now tops Obama 54% to 41% among this group of voters.

    Men favor McCain by 12 points. Women give Obama the edge by seven (demographic crosstabs available for Premium Members).

    McCain is viewed favorably by 58%, Obama by 52%. While 41% rate the Republican unfavorably, 45% say the same of the Democrat.
    (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls).

    Rasmussen Reports and Fox News Channel will jointly release a series of battleground state polls every Monday night at 6:00 p.m. Eastern. See overview of all polling released this week with results from Florida, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

    Nationally, the race between Obama and McCain is very close in the Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll which is updated every morning at 9:30 a.m. Eastern.

    In Virginia, over 40% of voters say they would be comfortable if McCain or Obama and their respective running mates are elected. But Obama and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin make voters most uncomfortable. Forty-five percent (45%) say they would not be comfortable at all with Palin as vice president, and 42% say that of Obama as president.

    Forty-nine percent (49%) trust McCain in general more than Obama, but nearly as many (45%) disagree. Voters are nearly evenly divided when asked who they trust more on the economy and jobs. But McCain has a 56% to 40% margin in terms of trust on national security issues.

    Just over half of voters (51%) say they would ask advice from McCain if they had to make the toughest decision of their lives versus 40% who say they would ask Obama.

    For 45% of Virginia voters, economic issues are the most important thing in this election, while 22% say national security is their chief concern.
    Eighty-one percent (81%) say they are certain now who they are going to vote for in November.

    Rasmussen Markets data currently gives the GOP a 52.0 % chance of carrying the state again this fall. George W. Bush won Virginia by eight percentage points in 2000 and 2004. But at the time this poll was released, Virginia was ranked as a “Toss Up” in the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator. NOTE: Factors other than the latest Rasmussen Reports poll impact the Balance of Power ratings. The current status is indicated on the table in the upper right hand corner of this article.

    NOTE: Factors other than the latest Rasmussen Reports poll impact the Balance of Power ratings. The current status is indicated on the table in the upper right hand corner of this article.

    Governor Tim Kaine, who was on Obama’s short list of possible running mates, gets good or excellent marks for job performance from 47%, while 20% say he’s doing a poor job. These numbers are identical to a week ago.

    George W. Bush carried Virginia in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. Now, however, 36% rate his job performance as good or excellent, while 48% give him poor marks.

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