LaFrentz Trade Scenarios

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  1. #1_War_Poet_ForLife

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    Carter could probably play point forward for the Blazers, if that was what was asked of him. That would help the Blazer's starters, because they lack a true point (assuming they go Roy/Fernandez/Carter/LMA/Oden)

    I think I'm trying too hard to match the Kidd trade, which was absolute rape by the Nets.

    Take away a first?

    By the way, Carter ends in 2010.
    http://sportstwo.com/NBASalaries.php?#jump_POR
    Most of your young Talent goes through that period, so you'll still have cap space to make them happy.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Ideal is you trade LaFrentz and, say, Outlaw for a package like Gerald Wallace and a bad contract. Wallace is the target and the bad contract is just the cost of doing business and you just let the player attached to the bad contract rot on the bench (like we've done with LaFrentz) and wait for the contract to expire (and, hey, maybe flip THAT contract when it's about to expire).

    That's the best way this could be done. How likely it is, I have no idea.
     
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...54~2015~2211~1026&teams=30~30~22~22&te=&cash=

    You take roughly 10 million off their books, you give them a good talent at a bargain price, and you give them some cap flexibility for 2010.

    The Blazers get Wallace, who was a blue chip free agent two summers ago.

    Blake, Bayless, Sergio
    Roy, Rudy
    Wallace, Webster, Caroll, Batum
    Aldridge, Frye, Diogu
    Oden, Przybilla
     
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    That would be a great trade. I would hate to give up Outlaw, but Portland would be set with its starting SF. (Of course, I don't see Charlotte doing it. But I have been wrong before!)
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    To be clear, I didn't mean specifically that trade. I was just using it as an example of a way this could be handled nicely...you get one very good player back who essentially replaces the out-going Outlaw, but a lot of the salary is absorbed by a player who won't be taking minutes or shots from anyone else.

    Devin Harris and some big contract (not Carter, I can't see them trading their best two players) from New Jersey would be wonderful, but I assume New Jersey isn't so desperate to dump salary that they'd part with Harris.
     
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    No way. Harris is a bargain at 7 million a year.

    And I don't think we're just going to try to dump Carter. We're going to try to get some value.
     
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    You forgot the word hell
     
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    And even if trying to dump Carter, I can't see NJ getting rid of Harris to do it. Harris is a building block NJ will hold on to.

    But you will see a lot of proposals from Blazers for Harris . . . since it came out last season that KP was very interested in him.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I wasn't saying Harris was the "dump" player. I was saying maybe Portland could take back a bad contract from New Jersey as part of the inducement for New Jersey to deal Harris.

    But I agree it's a pipe dream. I just love Devin Harris, thought New Jersey completely ripped Dallas off for him and am sad Portland wasn't the one to rip Dallas off. ;)

    Perhaps. I don't think Carter is a surefire "dump" casualty. But I think he's a candidate to be Camby'd.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    In my post, I explicitly said Carter wouldn't be the "bad contract" in a Devin Harris trade.

    The question is, would they do something like Harris for Outlaw, Bayless and LaFrentz, if Portland took back a bad contract also (not Carter!).

    Probably not. But I don't think it's insane. Outlaw and Bayless are both good young assets. I think Harris is worth more, but that's why I'm also suggesting Portland take back some bad contract.
     
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    Throw in a few firsts, cash, and Rudy :P

    We really don't have any terrible contracts.
    http://sportstwo.com/NBASalaries.php?#jump_NJN

    Actually, we have none.
     
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    You'd take on AK47's contract, but not Carter's?
     
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    I would. Carter on a small market team where they have a bunch of young guys who all want to shoot. That sounds like a bad mix and could lead to some attitude problems from Carter.

    AK47 focuses on defense first and deson't seem as concerned about having the ball in his hands to create a shot.

    One problem with the Blazers if they have a lot of players who want to create off the dribble. They need a SF who is a defensive specialist and an opportunist on offense.

    I always thought RJ would fit with the Blazers . . . I guess we didn't have a Yi to trade for him. : )
     
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    Wait. Now you'd rather have RJ than Vince at SF? But you want defense?


    This is confusing me.
     
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    I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of Nets players. But when I think of Blazers needs, Carter is not some who jumps out at fitting in, age and jadedness (for lack of a better term).

    I see RJ as still rising or at peak, can play within a team concept and yes I thought he could play decent defense. I've mentioned RJ before on the other board and many said they thought it was a bad idea.

    Blazers need a SF who can rise with this group and be a defensive presence, IMO. It may not be RJ, I feel confident Carter isn't the answer . . . maybe the Blazers already have the answer in Webster or Outlaw or Rudy.
     
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    I wouldn't want Vince because I don't think we need another primary scorer. We have Roy, we have Aldridge, and we have Oden (who could be a dominant scorer). Could Vince accept a veteran role?
     
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    Jefferson is horrible at defense and doesn't even know the concept
     
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    And Rudy is going to want his shots . . . and Outlaw . . . and Webster . . . and Bayless . . .
     

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