Marbury for the Vet Minimum?

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  1. Shapecity

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    If the Knicks release Marbury would you want the Lakers to sign him for the vet minimum? Lakers are keeping a roster spot open to start the season and will only have 14 players.
     
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    On a team with less depth at pg and is less of a contender. I'd think it would make more sense to consider it.

    However the Lakers with Farmar, Fisher, Vujacic, and Monkey King who all can play pg. Not to mention Kobe often has the ball in his hands and Marbury is not a very good 3 point shooter especially compared to Farmar, Fisher and Vujacic.
     
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    Fisher 40.6% 3 point shooting %
    Marbury 37.8% 3 point shooting %
    Farmar 37.1% 3 point shooting %

    He shot a slightly higher percentage than Farmar last year. I don't see much downside in signing him for the vet minimum and giving him an opportunity to win the starting job. Despite his character flaws, Marbury can still put the ball in the basket and beat most guys off the dribble any time he wants.

    If he doesn't buy into the Triangle and team concept, the Lakers can simply waive him and wish him good luck playing in Italy.

    As for Vujacic, the Lakers gave up on using him as a point guard already. They found the perfect role for him as the catch and shoot gunner because Sasha is terrible at handling the basketball and making decisions with it. I don't think Sun Yue is going to play much this year and if he does, it won't be at PG.
     
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    Marbury's career 3 point percentage is 32.6%, and his average last year was only throughout 24 games.

    Farmar comes off the bench and seems to be better than Marbury at this point in time. Even looking at slashing to the basket, Farmar's overall FG% was 46% while Marbury's last two years were 42% and 41.5%.
     
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    NO. He is a cancer. There is no role for him on this team. He is a shoot first point guard who wont play into Phil's system.
     
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    I don't see a problem with it. For the Vets Min, it'd be worth it. He's still capable of being a very good player and someone who can give Kobe a break as the primary ball-handler as well. And if it doesn't work out, waive him, pretty simple.
     
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    One of PJax's proven great strengths is his ability to work with head cases like Marbury and get productive game from them. 8 years ago, he'd have been adored by Lakers fans if he were in the back court with Kobe. At this point, he's a lot older, slower, and may not get it that his skills aren't the same.

    On the other hand, he shapes up, he could be playing Fisher's role for a few years.

    If he's been unhealthy and now is healthy enough to show a lot of his former game, he could be a huge asset for near nothing.
     
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    I'm looking at it from a different perspective. The Lakers have a good chance at being crowned champions next season, and for the love of god, please don't give Marbury a ring. That would be utterly disgusting.
     
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    I guess for the vets minimum he wouldn't hurt. If he misbehaves just cut him, it's not like we're going to spend that much money on him anyways.

    But still, Marbury scares me. He's like a bad luck charm, just like Chris Webber. He's never won anywhere he goes, and every time he leaves a team, the team improves the next season. I guess I wouldn't mind him, but I also wouldn't mind him wearing someone else's jersey.
     
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    He may seem like a bad luck charm, but if you look at it, has he ever been in a great situation? Phoenix was in a somewhat rebuild mode when he was there...NYK...yea...no need to explain there, and in Minny, again, not a team that was really on the verge of contending. What I'm saying is, he's never played for a team with legit title chances. The Lakers have those. I think that alone can change someones mindset about how they play the game.
     
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    He could turn out to be Gary Payton 2.0, but I think the upside of Marbury is worth a look at if you're the Lakers. If anything, he'll push Farmar and Fisher for minutes and keep them focused the entire season. Like Denny mentioned, PJax has made a career out of getting headcases to buy into his system and excel in a role.

    A lot of us wanted to sign Artest in the offseason because he'd bring an edge to the roster and he's a bargain for the money he's being paid. Marbury would also bring some craziness to the Laker roster, which seems to be missing from this group of guys.
     
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    Well actually at the price of the minimum, pretty much any team should take the risk. Especially if it means preventing another contender from potentially landing him and finding an effective role with them.
     
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    Exactly! If Marbury goes diva on the team you simply cut him and leak rumors to the media about his bizarre behavior.
     
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    Might be worth it just to piss off that relaxed Farmar... : ]
     
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    Well like I said, for the vet's minimum I guess I wouldn't be opposed.

    But that Ron Artest comparison is far-fetched, or at least in my opinion. Artest is crazy, but he could have answered one of our biggest needs, defense. Also, Artest isn't "retard" crazy, he is actually mentally insane (I read somewhere doctors prescribed him pills, which he obviously doesn't take), which would have given us an intimidation factor.

    Starbury is different. For starters, he doesn't play defense. Or at least I've never seen him play defense. He is just crazy, "retard" crazy. I've never seen anyone become intimidated of Starbury on the court. He's just an idiot with a big ego. I don't think he's a good locker room guy at all, but like already mentioned, maybe Phil can control him.

    Ron Artest crazy is like: that man will track me down and stab the shit out of me in a dark alley and then kill my family

    Starbury crazy is like: hahaha what a dumbass, get an education you fool

    One intimidates. One is just comedic relief.
     
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    It would be entertaining having him around. Check out this article entitled http://slamonline.com/online/2007/07/stephon-marbury-is-the-good-kind-of-crazy/

    That is pure comedy!

    And so is this ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYY338_JgvI
     
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    Is there any substance to this rumor? I mean, I'd like to have Lebron too, if I could.
     
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    Not yet, it's purely just a person's thoughts. All we know is that Marbury is going to get waived, there is no info yet on which teams he is interested, and which teams are interested in him.
     
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    Well, Dolan recently said (at least I saw this on ESPN) that Marbs is going to be in training camp and that they haven't talked about a buyout or anything yet. Now granted that could be total BS, I'm not sure, that's just what I saw. So, at least at this point, there haven't been any talks about it, or it least that's how it seems.
     
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    Well, actually there's a rumor, that if things won't work out with Marbury and the Knicks, he's prolly going to end up with Heat, Celtics, Spurs or Clippers. But I wouldn't mind seeing him with the Lakers, btw.
     
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