BREAKING NEWS: McCain SUSPENDS HIS CAMPAIGN (merged)

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't think the president has anything to do with most of the policies, they've been state ballot initiatives. Roe was a SCOTUS decision that I don't see being overturned no matter what. Others, neither candidate would address proper, so what's the difference?

    That only leaves energy policy.

    One candidate says drill, use nuclear, do everything possible alternative energy sources, and $300M for better batteries.

    The other says don't drill, no nuclear, waste money on possible alternative energy sources, and no incentive.

    On this one, I do not see Obama being on the right side.
     
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    Our greatest natural resource is our creativity and innovation.

    I am anti-drilling. Oil and gas is a dead end. Sooner or later it will run dry. Sooner or later we must wean ourselves of it, and now is as good a time as any. I am in favor of pouring money into R&D efforts to develop alternative technologies and alternative fuels. That includes wind power, harnessing the gulf stream, etc.

    I am also in favor of a national effort to just use less energy. Why do movie theaters keep the temperature at 68 degrees? Why am I freezing every time I enter a CVS? Air conditioning uses the most electricity in homes and businesses, by far. Getting on the soap box and asking people and business to set the temperature higher will save a ton of energy, and take a lot of pressure off the grid in summer time. And lower rates. I'm also in favor of creating incentives for businesses to start encouraging telecommuting by employees more.

    It doesn't sound like much, but the accumulation of marginal energy savings will collectively make a big difference in the energy consumption of the nation.
     
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    Really, that is ugly for McCain.
     
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    The line of thinking that McCain is suspending the campaign because he feels the need to go fix the economy is laughable. What is he going to bring to the table economically that the people who are working on a bailout agreement can't do? Isn't it the same McCain who has admitted he doesn't know much about the economy? This seems like another case of Karl Rove style politics that the Republican party has been using for awhile now.
     
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    ok, that's logical
     
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    McCain becomes more and more of a joke hourly.:biglaugh:

    His handlers, aghast at his recent struggles to put together simple, understandable sentences or convey basic ideas, have grasped at this ridiculous straw as an excuse to avoid the debate.

    After hiding from votes all year long, he runs home to Bushville for protection.

    As a major architect of this debacle, he should be donating his extra houses to help those Americans who are losing them.:tsktsk:

    Obama will crush McCain, if he has the stones to show up.
     
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    I went to various sites and added up all the trillions of barrels of unexplored and undrilled oil in the world. If we continue to use 25% (we use more like 20%, but that's the figure T.Boone Pickens uses), there's enough oil for 160 years.

    I wouldn't exactly say that's "soon enough." I would say that conservation makes it 320 years if we cut consumption by 1/2. Good plan. 160 years seems like a long time, considering how far wind or solar has come in the past 30 years. Why not buy it the time it needs to be practical?
     
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    That's the Mad Cow Disease in you talking.:crazy:
     
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    Most, if not all, experts disagree with your figure.

    Little things like population explosion, worldwide modernization, China becoming an automobile manufacturer...balloon the actual number of vehicles far past the amount of oil on Earth to run them.

    Gas is on the way out as a transportation fuel, and probably completely in the next 20 years.
     
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    All that a Roe reversal does is send it back to the states at this point. The SC claimed the right to abortion was in the US Constitution. If reversed, each state can make its own decision, as it should be IMO.
     
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    I've been told that carbon would lead to our demise. Is that argument not valid anymore? Because if not, why aren't we drilling NOW?
     
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    You can buy time through conservation without additional drilling (or with less additional drilling).
     
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    to reiterate the question I posed earlier: what does the proposal to halt campaign ads have to do with any of this?!
     
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    Dang, I was just going to watch a minute of that, and I couldn't help sit through the whole thing. That definitely wasn't the kind of publicity you want on a presidential campaign, especially coming from a guy like Letterman who never really comes across as a guy with an axe to grind.

    Reminds me of a few years ago somebody (can't remember who) flaked on Jon Stewart without giving any notice. They filled in the time, but you could just see how pissed off he was through the whole episode.

    Most of these late night guys are just trying to get a laugh. They know (except for Stewart) that excessive partisanship doesn't get them the choice interviews. All you have to do is show up and let the interviewer be funny and look sincere. McCain does that as well as anyone.

    I have to believe even the McCain camp was pretty shocked Letterman seemed so torqued. Dave made it seem like he thinks their campaign is spiraling out of control.
     
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    Re: McCain wants to postpone Friday's debate

    We don't.

    That's why we kicked England's ass and made The United States of America.
     
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    McCain is dying in the polls, his campaign has no points to make which is why they have only slanderous attack ads which are so vile and obvious they are eroding their base of voters.

    Having nothing to say, they seek to silence Obama.
     
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    "Taxpayers SHOULDN'T bail out lenders."

    George W. Bush
     
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    I just want to meet the undecided voters who are stupid enough to be swayed by this.
     
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    That's my thought also.
     
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    I saw it.

    I wouldn't trust her to feed my pond fish.

    She's THAT stupid.
     

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