CBS's interview of Palin

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml

    Palin really whiffed on that one.

    I don't think it matters what you think of Couric, I think that interview shows how poorly prepared Palin is. She'll try to find some? You're running for VP lady, not den mother.

    I'm not saying I'd be able to answer those questions better (it's doubtful I could. In fact, I know I couldn't). She dodged the question, and in one case, repeated almost the same answer to a question (the first one).

    I understand not knowing. But I'm not sure she didn't know, because if she DID know, she surely couldn't and wouldn't admit it.

    Is anyone else disappointed that Biden hasn't been interviewed for a while either? Come on Joe, put up or shut up!
     
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    Rick Davis has no stake in the company. He divested in 2006. Katie Couric is reading DailyKos talking points.
     
  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The NY Times is dailykos?

    And even if he hasn't been paid by them since 2006, doesn't it seem a bit odd that someone who's against lobbyists had one of the biggest lobbyists for Fannie and Freddie in his campaign?
     
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    Pretty much. McCain's response is that Davis divested from the company in 2006. The NYT wrongfully claims that he was paid up until last month.

    No surprise from the rag that brought us Jayson Blair.
     
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    I think Biden has been getting a pass on national interviews mostly because everybody's seen him a million times. I mean, I can think of at least three Sunday morning shows he's been on in the last year. He's kind of the default "Democrats foreign relations guy" on most subjects.

    I would like to see him in more interviews, however, because I think he's actually the true maverick in this campaign. He doesn't speak to the same speech he's given for a decade like Obama. He doesn't pander to the base like McCain when it's expedient. He's not a rightwing talking point rubber stamp like Palin.

    The big knock on Biden is that he'll say whatever he wants, regardless of whatever script the smart people in the room put in front of him. It's why he's always failed as a presidential candidate, but it also makes him an interesting interview. And it's why he's the only real maverick in this race.
     
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    Biden was on with Katie Couric this week. He said that "FDR" went on "television" when the market crashed in 1929. Couric sat there with a blank look on her face. The only problem was that FDR wasn't President and that the television hadn't been invented. Imagine if Sarah Palin had said such a ridiculous thing.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/biden-fdr.html



    I find it interesting that you'd call a partisan hack like Biden a "maverick", however, considering Biden was the guy who introduced "Borking" to the judicial process.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    As a fiscal conservative (mostly) and a social liberal I really didn't feel any major stake in this election; I would have been happy with either McCain or Obama, but I was waiting on him to pick his running mate before I fully made up my mind, and this lady scares the hell out of me for her ignorance and apparent utter lack of preparedness for the stage that she is on.

    I really only have a couple of core requirements for my president, be smarter and better than me, a lot smarter and better than me, and don't be an ideological nut, Palin gives me that queasy feeling in my stomach that George W. Bush gives me, where I see the lights are on but nobody's home, and with McCain's questionable health and advanced years I see a vote for him as a defacto vote for this numbskull.

    This isn't even a politically motivated rant, I just want somebody in the whitehouse who I at least hope is moderately equipped to occupy the office and this woman being second in line ought to scare the holy hell out of people.
     
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    I find it a bit puzzling that someone who is "queasy" over Palin's ideology, which she didn't force into Alaska in her "executive role", would support a top of the ticket candidate who is a follower of Saul Alinsky, who called Rev. Wright an "uncle" (and let him marry him and baptize his kids), and who worked for Bill Ayers at the Annenberg Foundation.

    I question your knowledge of Barack Obama.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm queasy over her apparent ignorance, I never said anything about her ideology, I just said that ideology is one of the factors that I consider when looking at a candidate ... and I weight "smarts" more than I do political beliefs.

    ps. and as a community development/urban planning minor I seriously question your knowledge of the work of Saul Alinsky and the IAF; he founded a mult-party, multi-ethnic organization that works to alleviate problems that face the poor ... and with my quaker upbringing I still can't seem to shake that bit in the bible that tells me that we should work to help the impoverished and disenfranchised (even if I don't necessarily believe in the Christian God, and Jesus' divinity anymore).
     
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    OK, what do Obama's transcripts look like? We had Bush's, we had Gore's, we had Kerry's, we even have McCain's.

    Where are Obama's transcripts?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Well he was Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law ... or were you asking about transcripts of his speeches?
     
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    Tells me all I need to know. I learned about Alinsky as well in college as a pre-law student...14 years ago. Then I learned on my own.

    Rules for Radicals takes a different meaning with experience and stepping outside the academic echo chamber.
     
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    No, wondering what his grades were and why he transferred to Columbia after visiting Pakistan in 1981.

    Answer the question.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Actually I'll bet that doesn't tell you all you need to know about me, but hey I wouldn't expect anything less on a message board.
     
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    But you are learning about Alinsky in college!

    Seriously, if you don't understand that your college education, especially in liberal arts/sociology, wasn't biased, I can't help you.

    Read Rules for Radicals, then let's discuss further. It's a hard find though, because it is out of print and is being hidden. Powell's had one the last time I checked, however.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm familiar with the Alinsky method, and some of the history associated with him, and I think his approach has some flaws, but his call for grassroots, community involvement does actually work ... and in practice I've already engaged in two six-month internships working for organizations that deal with REAL people in REAL neighborhoods dealing with REAL problems (most notably Lents in outer SE Portland), and I'm not some fresh-faced 19 year old douchebag fresh out of high-school getting everything handed to me through a book or professor's lecture (I'm a 32 year old Scottish-American asshole instead) I worked as a paramedic in Los Angeles and Las Vegas for 7 years before getting burned out. But a lot of the problems that I saw first hand in truly impoverished communities prompted me to pursue something where I could actually be proactive, rather than reactive (cleaning up blood, and patching holes).

    And for the record my degree is a B.S. in Geography (GIS), I was persuing a degree in civil engineering before I decided to shift focus into something a little different and more "satisfying" than sitting at a desk doing nothing but crunching numbers all day long (although GIS has a fair amount of that), I'm very much more interested in spatial analysis, statistics, and economics than a lot of fluffy, liberal arts, and sociolgy crap (and yes, there is a fair amount of that in college).
     
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    Can you fill me in on what is implied here? (Not asking contentiously, I am truly curious.) I don't spend a lot of time in the right-wing echo chamber so I have no idea what this refers to, but I'm very curious what transgression is being alleged. Mysterious college transfer after visit to mysterious Muslim country... what does it mean?

    SR
     
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    I'm not in a "right-wing echo chamber", but I do know that Obama traveled into Pakistan in 1981 when it was not legal to do so on a US passport.

    I'm not "alleging" anything. I am relaying information that is clearly not as important as Sarah Palin's latest white-trash escapade.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Can you take that blinding white light out of my eyes first?

    But Seriously what is the implication? Is Columbia University a hotbed of Islamo-fascism or something? And as for his grades, transferring from Occidental college to Columbia, I'm guessing they weren't awful, since he was able to go from Columbia to Harvard, and those grades would have followed him.

    Maybe Obama is just the lucky recipient of favoritism and minorty quotas and never deserved the chance to go to a good university or college?
     
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    I love how all the Obamaniacs just gloss over Joe Biden's FDR/TV boneheaded response.

    Echo chamber, anyone?
     

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