McCain Exposed As Liar

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  1. Денг Гордон

    Денг Гордон Member

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    a politician lying???
    say it isn't so!!!!! :p

    they're all frauds and liars my man, you just vote for the person you think will do the least worst at the job, not the best.. because that NEVER happens.
    Presidents/ politicians don't give 2 shits about you, they're there to line their pockets and keep big business happy and rich.
     
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    This is important, because McCain said he was going to Washington to fix the economy, but never actually followed through on that, exposing his whole "suspending his campaign" to be nothing but a dumb stunt.
     
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    fair enough, there's kinda of knowing a politician is a lying sack of garbage and then there's them proving it so.

    happened here in Canada, The Liberals got caught with their hand in the cookie jar and they were ousted for it.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4476271.shtml

    Last Time, Reid Ripped McCain For Missing Votes

    By Martin Kady II

    Sep 24, 2008

    (The Politico) <!-- sphereit start -->Does Harry Reid want it both ways when it comes to John McCain showing up for Senate votes?

    This afternoon, Reid dismissed McCain's sudden move to parachute in on Washington and help solve the economic crisis.

    Let's compare today's statement ...

    "It would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation’s economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op."

    ... With Reid's statement from July, when Obama showed up for a vote but not McCain (quoted in The Washington Post):

    "I should mention how glad my fellow Democrats and I were to have our nominee for president here to vote on these important bills. Senator Obama has come to work and taken tough stands. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Senator McCain," Reid said. "Perhaps taking tough stands on important issues is not part of Senator McCain's campaign strategy. Perhaps he's just too busy on the campaign trail to do his day job."
     
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    so . . . let's see . . . McCain is caught in a manipulative lie, and the response is, "give him a break, he's no worse than anyone else." What every happened to holding politicians to the highest standard?
     
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    I happen to think that Reid is a good guy with a lot of integrity, although a bit of an ideologue. I don't think his job is to be a pitbull and complain in either instance, however, and I think he often goes too far in his partisan statements. However, one could probably justify his statements as a consistent policy: the senators should be present to vote on important bills regardless of whether they contribute in drafting them. So, to be consistent, he would therefore have to state that McCain and Obama should stay away during the drafting and negotiation process, since (a) neither is on the Banking committee; (b) neither is a subject-matter expert; and (c) their staffs and advisors can do all the same work anyway, but that, when the bill is up for vote, they sure as heck better high-tail it back to Washington. I think that stance would be consistent. Would he take it? Who knows.
     
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    LOL...Honestly, it's Keith Olbermann.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    I voted for Reid (he's my state senator). I think he's been godawful the whole time, and an asshole on top of that. This is just one of countless idiotic statements he's made, almost daily. No way is he getting my vote again.

    No senator should tell others not to show up to do their jobs. The rules of the senate are such that regardless of what the Bank Robbing Committee reports out of committee, the bill is subject to amendments.

    Speak for Obama, though. He's not a subject-matter expert on anything - what's he doing there?
     
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    Beats me. I have no idea why anyone wants to run for public office in the first place.

    my impression is that Reid only started making these idiotic comments once he became the democrat's top dog, or whatever his title is.
     
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    As I said on BBF (and probably here too), any undecided voter who's stupid enough to be swayed by something like this is a fucking fool.



    And I'm proven so right... :snort:
     

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