Bailout

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  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    Sickening. Pelosi is not calling it a bailout, but a "buy-in". This shit makes me sick.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2008/09/pelosi-its-not.html

     
  2. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    hey, now lets bailout Detroit.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080928164938.dtc44u1c&show_article=1&lst=1

     
  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It may take ten years to recoup some of the lost value on these mortgages, but if you're going to throw a ton of tax payer scratch in the purchase of assets, it may as well be property.

    But calling it a "buy-in" is a bit cheeky; the whole thing stinks to holy hell, but it just doesn't stink quite as much as the collapse of our economy. (to put it in perspective, my student loan hasn't been originated yet and is still in limbo and has been idling that way for a week ... good times).
     
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    There's going to be a lot more of this garbage if Obama is elected. We'll have a Legislative and Executive branch who will agree with each other so much they will be nodding like they're at the Wailing Wall. They'll be no brakes on the socialization train--it will be full steam ahead.
     
  5. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    I agree.
     
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    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

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    oh bullshit.

    there isn't enough money to do any of that stuff. your boy W has taken care of that.
     
  7. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Uh, what makes you say President Bush is "my boy"? I voted for Gore in 2000. As for having enough money, there is always money when you can "soak the rich" and "evil corporations".
     
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    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

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    who did you vote for in 2004?
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I remember seeing a quote by Reagan to Tip O'Neal - "I'm going to take away your allowance."
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I didn't cast a vote for President. Neither candidate deserved my vote.

    I have political beliefs that go beyond bumper stickers. You should try the same.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I wish. Sadly, I think you're wrong. I don't think the Democrats are particularly left-wing, and that goes for Obama, too. Bill Clinton and Tom Daschle engineered a drive to the center for the party and the party is still very much centrist.

    If he wins the Presidency, I'd love to see Obama be as left-wing as the Bush administration was right-wing.
     
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    Wow Amazing Obama got his energy bill going before he is even in office.... Or did he simply pitch something that was already in the works so he could try to take credit for it a year from now. I think the latter.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    So will McCain be seen as the one who deserves big credit for this, creating a big move for him in the polls? Did his "I'm suspending my campaign and rushing to DC" gambit pay off for him?
     
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    The Government is kinda like an airplane... Neither can fly with only one wing.

    And I'm really fucking tired so here's another analogy. If you paint your bedroom white and aren't happy with the color do you paint it black to fix it?
     
  15. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't see how McCain suspended his campaign. He showed up for the debate, and he's running ads here in Vegas. Even a new one that's half making his policy proposals and half saying why Obama's are bad.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    If analogies are what you like, here are two:

    If you want to fly straight and the plane has been pulled to the right too far, you want to draw it back to the left to get it back on course.

    If painting one's bedroom is a constant, never-ending process and the room is currently too dark, do you start to add some light colour (recognizing that you'll never have a chance to completely redecorate the whole room in one shot)?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    And equally as sadly, I disagree with you. You may not think the Democrats are particularly left-wing, but all you have to do is to see who drives the Democratic Party train, and you'll see we're a long way from the days of the DLC. The extreme left wing of the Democratic Party controls it now, and Pelosi, Reid and Obama are all standard bearers of that part of the spectrum. Four years with those three at the helm working in concert will make the Bush Administration look centrist by comparison.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    If this was a stunt, it failed. If he really believed he needed to come to DC to save the economy and he put his country first, then it will remembered as a profile in courage.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The nation seems to swing like a pendulum from left to right throughout the years. The 1960s were the most progressive decade of my lifetime, while the 1980s were certainly conservative.

    The problem is when the left is in power, they institute all kinds of things that are never undone. Social Security is a perfect example. When the right is in power, they've focused on tax cuts and strengthening the military for the most part.

    If the pendulum swings left too many times, we'll be a socialist country.

    GW Bush is not a conservative, or hardly right wing. The massive amounts of govt. spending (non-war/military) and massive 50% growth of govt. as a whole, and now acquiring companies and properties in a socialist manner.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I hope. I think they are all quite left-center, but we'll see, if Obama wins.
     

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