Thoughts About the Debate

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  1. The_Lillard_King

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    Well I haven't seen one of these threads yet, so I thought I would start one. I'm not going to take the time to break down the whole thing, just a few random thoughts to see if anyone wants to start talking about the debate (coming from an independent Obama supporter):

    -my first thought is McCain ain't so bad . . . he isn't Bush too me. He comes across as some tough old son of a bitch, and sometimes those kind of people can make make great bosses (for the company not the employees).

    -Also, I can almost go with McCain being a maverick who doesn't care what politcis say he is going to do the right thing . . .but I don't think I can ever get past the Palin pick . . . it is an example of how he in fact plays politics.

    -Obama was Obama. Smooth . . . confident, calm and well spoken. I hope his intentions are right and that he isn't too extreme left. But he may be exactly what this country needs (Modern day JFK?)

    -Also there is a thought that creeps in if Obama will be the safest choice for America . . . will he want to invest so much in this country he neglects national defesne and keeping up the fight against terrorist? But he can't be that naive, can he?

    Overall my general impression is Obama is for the middle class and helping resurrect that part of America (which I think is badly needed). McCain will continue the policy of very pro-business (capitalist run the market) with little gov't oversight while trying to reduce gov't spending. Given the last eight years, I think it is time for a change.
     
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    Did it again . . . please move to OT. :cheers:
     
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    Obama wasn't smooth, he kept stuttering.
     
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    McCains cheeks are inflated.... like a squirrel. I wonder if he stores nuts in them.
     
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    Obama stuttered a few times, but he seem so much more calm and coherent than McCain.
     
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    yes, as was evident when he kept on trying to butt in when the moderator was speaking with "uh uh uhuh...."
     
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    I think he has a disorder? did he ever have a stroke? might be long term effects of his torture, like how he can't have a full range of motion w/ his arms
     
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    So who won the debate in your mind?
     
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    McCain. He sounded more relaxed and focused while Obama sounded like he had ADD with the way he just went off on a thousand tangents per answer. I only listened to 1/2 the debate on the radio, so I don't know how they came across on TV.
     
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    I think McCain sounded better on rqadio than he looked on TV (I caught some on radio and then watched the recording).

    McCain wasn't as flustered as I thought he would be, but I thought he came across more anrgy.

    I don't think this debate changed anyones's mind, I don't think it even convinced many undecided to go with one or the other.
     
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    McCain's face looks puffy because of melanoma surgery he had 8 years ago.
     
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    hahaha what a loser!







    (I'm being facetious btw for people who can't take a joke)
     
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    are you sure? :) I still think its nuts.
     
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    Positive.
     
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    Based on all the polling, it seems that Obama has won the debate.

    I thought it seemed like a tie, which I guess can be perceived as a win for Obama since McCain was supposed to dominate on foreign policy.
     
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    polling from what, internet polls that had democraticunderground and moveon bomb them?
     
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    No polls like the CBS, CNN, and MediaCurves flash polls, polling the entire nation after the debate.

    And also the daily trackers. Gallup showed Obama increase his lead, which means he had improved in the last day of the poll. Research 2000, which actually shows the daily poll of it's 3 day, daily tracker, showed Obama up 51 to 42 in the first day after the debate, a 2 point swing in Obama's direction. But Palin's favorability rating also dropped down to -10, so it is hard to tell if that had more of an effect on the polling, or the debate.

    But if you put the daily tracker improvements for Obama, and the flash polls from debate night, it is pretty clear that Obama is coming out of the debate the winner.
     
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    lots of credible sources eric

    you may view some of them here

    http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2208

    or run your own search....easy to find.
     
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    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1564

    Zogby Poll: Obama Narrowly Won First Debate, But Race Remains Too Close to Call

    Likely voters give the Democrat a slight nod on his debate performance and in his overall handling of the current financial crisis


    Utica, New York – Likely voters nationwide who watched Friday’s debate in Mississippi between Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain gave Obama the win by the slightest of margins, a new Zogby Interactive survey shows.
    The poll shows that 44% believed Obama won the debate, while 41% said McCain did. Another 16% said they watched the debate but were unsure who came out on top.
     

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