Thoughts About the Debate

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  1. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    After I wrote that, I realized that Biden hasn't been on the big stage much either, so maybe I'm not being completely fair. I'd guess the bigger difference there is that nobody, even the Democrats, are really that eager to see Biden. We know his story, we've seen him before, and although he's interesting he's pretty much old news for a politician. I don't know that the late night shows are dying to have him on.

    But Palin--she's got to be the hottest ticket in Washington, even now.
     
  2. Tortimer

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    I did read Palin and the McCain people were thinking of having Palin on SNL. I'm not sure if this would be good but I could see it being very funny and I know I wouldn't miss it for anything.
     
  3. mook

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    Now that you mention it, that's a fantastic idea. If she could manage to say something intelligent to the Tina Fey/hick version of her, it could do a lot to overhaul her growing image of cluelessness.

    Wonder why haven't they done it already? Seems like a really obvious move....

    Could be that the writers of SNL, who are obviously pretty left wing, aren't willing to write something that makes her look good. Just speculating.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    the only way she'd say something that was intelligent was if the SNL writers wrote it for her beforehand.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wouldn't you think that the Obama campaign would be running with the lack of Palin appearances, by having Biden appear as often as possible?
     
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    I know they are left wing but I really think they would be fair with Palin at least I hope so. I think Palin and McCain people would have a right to see what things they are going to show on SNL and have the right drop some things. I have read that from other SNL hosts.
     
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    IMO it is because Biden would even make a biger fool of himself and he already has made some major mistakes with the few times he has been seen. You guys just wait to see the debate Thursday and then come back here and we can discussion how bad Biden is and not Palin. :cheers:
     
  8. mook

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    Frankly, I think both candidates want to bury their Veeps in soundproof glass, where all can be seen and nothing heard.

    I'm hoping this Thursday is a lot like that time my mom and sister-in-law got drunk at Thanksgiving and finally went at it. Dad and my brother were too drunk themselves to do much to stifle it, so it was just this awesome tirade of base insults that had been stewing for years.

    As an innocent bystander who merely got to sit from a safe distance and watch the insanity unravel, it was fantastic.

    As bad as things have been lately, I think we could all use a night of hilarious stupidity.
     
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    There is just so many funny things SNL could do with Palin. Her two interviews, Obama and the Lipstick on a pig, The woman of the view and some of the other left wing movie stars etc. It would be one of the funniest SNL ever and I think if done right would actually help McCain/Palin. I guess if in the next couple weeks if it looks hopeless for McCain they might as well try it and see what happens.
     
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    Biden has made over 100 appearances and interviews since being named the VP candidate. Biden is who he is--a very experienced, very knowledgable guy who is an extreme E--that is, he talks while he is working out the answer in his head, and has a tendency to articulate every thought that pops into his head. Lots of people are that way.
     
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    My experience is that comedians don't play favorites. They are interested in getting the laugh.
     
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    Skimming throught this, I see tortimer's point about if Palin just holds her own, that may be a victory.

    I don't study polls but I saw a jump in McCain's campaign when Palin was annouced as the VP running mate. I saw the excitment go up another level after the Palin speech. I am now sensing the excitiment is dying down after a few painful interivews and some overall hiding of Palin.

    I agree everyone is expecting Palin to have her moose handed to her at the debate. But if Palin somehow comes across like she did at the convention, it might just be the kick in the pants McCain's campaign needs.

    I beleive I am with many voters in that I'm not totally against McCain and would consider him more if it wasn't for the obvious political pick of Palin. But if Palin proves voters wrong and that she is worthy of a VP nominee, that will bolster voter's confidence in McCain.

    McCain needed to take a gamble with his campaign and did with Palin. Friday morning we will see if that gamble paid off. Palin couldn't possibly change her latest image during the debate . . . or can she?
     
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    I can't believe that people think having someone who is running for the Vice Presidency should appear on a comedy show with six weeks left in the campaign. It's a colossal waste of time. Have them out campaigning or have them on real news shows.
     
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    Hey, as a citizen I'd much rather see her appear on the Sunday morning circuit, and I've said so before.

    Strategically speaking, though, if McCain wants her to be seen and not really heard, SNL might not be a bad place to show her. Something carefully scripted where she can appear smart.
     
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    Didn't Clinton play the saxs on David Letterman one election year . . . I thought that worked out for him real well. It was cool, he put the shades on and showed some lip.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Well, there are always those who decide on their presidential picks while watching Entertainment Tonight. I prefer to make my decision based on more serious matters.
     
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    He did, which some people feel was a pivotal moment. Of course, it's very easy to overrate the importance of a single moment in creating a narrative. I think it makes a nice symbol of what won that Presidency for Clinton and cost Bush the Elder...Bush seemed out of touch, an old party insider and increasingly culturally irrelevant. Clinton ably cast himself as a younger, connected new-comer. Playing the saxophone on a late-night show gave him the "cool political outsider" cred while still impressing people with his intelligence.
     

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