Some suggest McCain blew bailout on purpose

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  1. ucatchtrout

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    Stephanopoulos Suggests McCain Blew Up Bailout for Personal Gain
    By Nathan Burchfiel (Bio | Archive)
    September 26, 2008 - 16:39 ET
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nathan...os-suggests-mccain-blew-bailout-personal-gain



    Sen. John McCain's decision this week to suspend his campaign and return to Washington to help address the financial mess wasn't an example of his campaign slogan "Country First." Instead - according to Democrats and the media - it was a chance for McCain to sabotage the deal so he could take credit for rebuilding it.

    "Some Democrats suspect that he tried, that he's coming in, working with the House Republicans to blow this up so he can put it back together and get some credit," ABC Washington correspondent George Stephanopoulos said and "World News with Charles Gibson" Sept. 25. "It's not clear that he's signed on entirely to the House Republican plans."
     
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    How many times do I have to point out that the Dems control both sides of Congress and should have been able to pass their own bill without any GOP votes? McCain didn't blow anything up. That take is all spin to cover up the fact that the Democrats can't even get their own party to agree with the bill.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Oh if it were that easy and simple. Or should I say, if you didn't have such a limited grasp on how politics work and that not everyone in a political party is going to agree with their party all of the time, someone might take that comment seriously.:pimp:
     
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    So McCain said he as going to postpone his campaign to help resolve the financial crisis . .. country first.

    Does that mean he will continue to suspend his campaign?
     
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    Democrats could have passed it on their own, but wanted a bipartisan bill. Makes sense on some levels, but why have the reigns of power and not use them if the issue is truly one of the landmark issues of the past 50 years?
     
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    what's crazy is that Bush was in favor of the bill, too. You had the Democratic leadership working with Bush--how unlikely is that? And still nothing was accomplished. This is a head-scratcher for me.
     
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    That is what I don't get. Bush, a republican president, wants to pass a bill that the republicans are against.

    I'm sure it makes sense to those that understand politcs, but I'm glad someone else finds this crazy.
     
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    When I saw that, I was reminded by this scene (around the 1:00 mark)

    [video=youtube;gR7HDERBCQE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR7HDERBCQE[/video]
     
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    We're not a parliamentary system. There are different wings in each party. The Republicans have a strong small-government wing, and President Bush represents big government.
     
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    how do you find these things? If that speech made a difference, as some allege, the republicans should be ashamed of themselves. Even Marty McFly learned not to react when he was called yellow-bellied.
     
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    usually they fall in line, perhaps in return for other favors, but they fall in line.
     
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    It's been widely reported that the bill failed by 13 votes and that 12 republicans who had their arms twisted to vote for the bill changed their mind after Pelosi's speech. With that knowledge, finding the clip on youtube wasn't hard.

    She's in a position where counting votes before voting on bills like this is a prerequisite skill. She may have wanted to sabotage the bill herself by making this kind of speech at the 11th hour. Or she's plain stupid. I wouldn't count out the latter, or both. Certainly I find the latter true.

    EDIT: it may seem that the bill wouldn't have passed based upon my math above. Think again! The vote was 228-205. If the 12 republicans had voted, it'd have been 217-216 and passed.
     
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    She's not a consensus builder. She is the end creation of 15 years of the partisan crap that has engulfed Washington.
     
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    If there ever was a STFU moment, this was it.
     
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    Gah, Pelosi is garbage.

    I think everyone can agree with me on this one point (regardless of your political stripe) is it too much to ask for to have competent fucking people running our mother fucking governemnt?
     
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    It seems to me there's a much cheaper way to solve the banking mess. Raise the FDIC and FSLIC insurance levels to $500K, then people in rich places like California wouldn't be as eager to withdraw their money and it would stop the runs on some of the banks.
     
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    I agree with that.





    ITS THE DEMOCRATS FAULT!!!!!! =0
     
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    As recently as Monday morning, only minutes before the House's stunning vote, McCain suggested that his call for a White House summit meeting Thursday, and his visit with unhappy House Republicans that preceded it, had helped clear the way for the bill's passage.

    "I went to Washington last week to make sure that the taxpayers of Ohio and across this great country were not left footing the bill for mistakes made on Wall Street and in Washington," he told a crowd in Columbus, Ohio. "Some people have criticized my decision, but I will never, ever be a president who sits on the sidelines when this country faces a crisis."

    On NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday, top adviser Steve Schmidt said McCain managed "to help bring all of the parties to the table, including the House Republicans, whose votes were needed to pass this."

    The comment suggested that McCain took responsibility for rounding up the needed GOP votes, "and that was probably a stupid thing for him to promise to do," said Democratic adviser Jennifer Palmieri.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080930/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_bailout
     
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    Their isn't enough money to realistically insure every American investor at the $100,000 limit, thanks to Bush bankrupting our nation for Halliburton, so I fail to see how inflating that already dishonest number by 500% will instill confidence in any investor.
     

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