Gotcha Journalism

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  1. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I don't know what kind of vice president or president Palin will make (although I have an idea), but I do like her catchy phrases:

    "If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should," Palin told the voter during the exchange, which was captured on video.

    Except McCain chided Obama during Friday's presidential debate for saying publicly that he supports striking terrorist targets inside Pakistan if the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to do so.

    McCain, who sat with Palin, said in Monday's interview that he understands "the day and age of 'gotcha' journalism. ... In a conversation with someone who you didn't hear the question very well, you don't know the context of the conversation. Grab a phrase. Gov. Palin and I agree that you don't announce that you're going to attack another country."

    Palin added that "as Sen. McCain is suggesting here, also, never would our administration get out there and show our cards to terrorists, in this case, to enemies and let them know what the game plan was."

    Asked what she learned from the experience, Palin said: "That this is all about "gotcha" journalism. A lot of it is. But that's OK, too."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080930/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pakistan
     
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    "As Alaskans, it was our job when we woke up in the morning to look outside and see if we saw any Russians walking around. Then we would go up to 'em and say 'Whatcha doin here?' and if they couldn't answer we would saw 'Shooo, get out of here.' "

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  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm not sure how this is a "gotcha" moment. It's more of a "I have no idea what the hell I'm doing" moment.

    Sometimes I almost get the idea that the hard-core Republicans want to destroy McCain, and teaming him up with Palin was their way to do it.

    There were many better choices for VP that he could have chosen.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    She's in over her head right now and the press smells blood in the water, and blood in the water for them means ratings.

    Does she have the chops to take advice from experts and arrive at the optimal decision? Perhaps. Does she know much herself? Not really, but she seems to have a good gut for what's right and wrong. Reagan led that way, and it worked. Bush 43 led that way, and the results were mixed.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    That's true on both sides.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    that is true, but it's far more true for Palin than it is for Biden.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    By the same token, the Republicans made a better choice in McCain than Obama if we're talking experience. And isn't the top of the ticket more important?
     
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    "gotcha journalism"

    Sheesh. A voter asked the question, and she answered it.

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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    She scared the crap out of me when she was picked and hasn't done anything yet to change my mind.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Did I mention "experience"?

    Nope.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Do you believe Joe Biden is much smarter than Sarah Palin? I think if you put Sarah Palin in the Senate for 36 years she probably is a better candidate than Biden.
     
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    She doesn't scare me, but only because I'm firmly convinced she won't be elected. Since I am convinced of that, I find her highly amusing.

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    I don't know, you can put 36 years of experience on a pig, it's still a pig.
    Is Biden much smarter? Maybe not much, but I suspect he is smarter.

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    There's a difference between being well-spoken and intelligent. Most people are fooled.
     
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    Keywords that signal you have just screwed up and are trying to hide it:
    Gotcha journalism
    Blame game
    Now is not the time
    Mistakes were made

    I think Mrs. Palin needs to decide soon that she needs to spend more time with her family. (That, by the way, is my all-time favorite political euphemism. Whenever a politician says that, I always wonder, "How does your family feel about that?")
     
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    I don't suspect that's necessary. The die has been struck, and Obama is going to win this election. All he has to do is play defense. He's won the spin game. There is nothing that can be done by McCain to change the dynamic of this election; he lost his last chance when he didn't take posession of solving this crisis.

    It will be interesting to see what the populace does in 2010 after two years of a completely aligned Legislative and Executive branch on the Left.
     
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    That's true. But Biden is not particularly well-spoken, so that isn't the key issue here.

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    Joe Biden is extremely well-spoken. His errors have to do with his ideas, not his phrasing.
     
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    It will indeed. History says that the R's will make gains in 2010, and I suspect that's correct.

    As for ditching Palin, I suspect that would actually hurt McCain even more than keeping her. She's a lose-lose situation for him (as he so richly deserves for picking her).

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    Yup, Obama has moved into a position where it looks like we may have an electoral slaughtering of McCain at this point. He's ahead by 5-10 points depending on which tracker you look at. McCain and Palin both have negative favorabilities.

    The only problem with Palin dropping out is that it's admitting surrender.

    From 538

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