Taking advantage of a drunken female is wrong, especially if you're sober. It's also fucking disgusting, you (not you in particular, people in general) don't have enough game to get some pussy on an equal playing field? It's morally wrong, and should be considered raped. Alcohol impairs ones decision making abilities, and taking advantage of that is wrong.
I agree with you if she is like tipsy or something, but if she is full blown gone and someone takes advantage of that, it's wrong.
I'm a big believer in freedom. The girl has the choice whether to say yes or no. If she says yes, than the guy can go ahead. If she says no, or no response, then the guy can't go ahead. If a person doesn't have the power to not say yes when drunk, then they have the freedom to change their habits, and stop drinking, so they will regain their ability to not say yes. If someone wants to get drunk and agree to have sex, they should have to take responsibility for their actions. Someone else shouldn't be punished (in this case the man) for the irresponsibility of the female.
Ah, he plays the game card! Here's the wikipedia definition of rape: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape If the woman consents, its not rape. End of story. If people are going to whine about 'clouded judgment', maybe consider that the woman shouldn't be drinking if she wants to make smart decisions. A sober man taking advantage of a drunk/mentally impaired (temporarily or permanently) woman isn't an honorable act, but its not rape. No consent = rape. Consent = no rape. That's it, that's all.
"In any allegation of rape, the absence of consent to sexual intercourse on the part of the victim is critical. Consent need not be express, and may be implied from the context and from the relationship of the parties, but the absence of objection does not of itself constitute consent."-wikipedia In a nutshell, the absence of objection does not mean it is consensual. There would not be a point to getting the girl drunk then. The guy is getting away with rape. It is called date rape is it not?
I didn't come up with the term date rape. And I don't think its accurate. Once again its not honorable, but its also not rape.
Playing devil's advocate, I've had a couple er, "undesirable interactions" due to alcohol and my feeling the next morning was never more than that of simple regret, but surely nothing close to "OMG I got raped"
F that. If I get too drunk and go out and kill people with my car nobody lets me off because I couldn't make a proper judgment because I got drunk. If you get so drunk that you can't control yourself you NEED to learn your damn lesson. If a guy holds a woman down and forces himself on her that is rape. Prison for him. If a guy gives a woman one too many Long Islands and gets in her pants.....tough.
