VH1 is pissing on hip hop

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  1. GMJ

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    Has anyone been watching vh1's "Top 100 hip hop songs of all time" list? It's a goddamn joke.

    85: Pete Rock and CL Smooth - T.R.O.Y
    84: Cam'ron - Hey ma

    74: Common - I used to love H.E.R.
    73: TI - What you know about that


    WTFFFFFFF
     
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    I'm watching....DMX was ranked way too low...cmon "Ruff Ryders Anthem"? Please it should be higher.

    I'm a DMX fan lol
     
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    I'm waiting for more Jim Jones tracks myself.


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    It's VH1... what do you expect?
     
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    does anyone know if camp lo's "luichini" was on it?
    if not, shame on vh1

    watching some of that brought me back to the old days and re-assured my appreciation for good hip hop.
     
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    You could never trust VH1 or MTV to do a good hip hop list
     
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    Yeah I was watching this and I felt it was ridiculous. As a hip hop head I find it funny that there were some songs on there I had never heard of.

    Also I felt like Master P's "Make em say Ughnnn!" shouldn't have been on there. That song is exactly what is wrong with hip hop. Not inspirational, not revolutionary, not a classic, not even on the radio anymore.
     
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    Whatchu know about that is a pretty good song. Hey Ma shouldn't be on that list at all. I have no idea who Pete Rock, CL Smooth, and Common are.

    In middle school, whenever I did watch music videos on TV, it was on MTV. VH1 has always sucked.
     
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    Common is legit, but not THAT legit.

    I hated that list, I didn't watch the rest of that damn countdown.
     
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    Some of the architects of the 90's golden era of hip hop.
     
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    That is whats wrong with hip hop, no education and being spoon fed MTV's manure.

    T.I is a waste of space
     
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    One more thing I thought the list was semi-decent. I'll explain why:

    You have to expect the modernized crap hip hop to be included, I think they touched on alot of stuff from the late 80's tot he mid 90's. Its like a balancing beam, and even though on an overall standpoint big networks will fail at these sort of lists, Its not like they had In the Club as #1 and they did a mediocre job if you whiff away all of the mainstream, force fed stuff.
     
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    That's actually one of my biggest problems with the list. It's like they'd rather make sure the list is equally represented from the 80's and 1999-onward. If I made that list, 85%-90% of the songs would be from the 90's. VH1 has a track record of appeasing and giving respect to the older acts in order to gain credibility, but just because these artists were the fore-founders doesn't mean that they represented the best in the genre.
     
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    VH1 is for Old people in England :D
     
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    Okay so are you going to make the argument that "rappers" like Soulja Boy, Paul Wall, Nelly and other mainstream manure should have been included then random scrub forefather with a hit?

    I'll take a guy talks about something silly or simple over bitches, 40's, grills, and weed. Could they have thrown in a little more of the educated, newer stuff thats a tad underground. Sure, but I'd rather take that then listening to some retard tell me how Ludacris is nasty, when in reality, rappers like that come up with computer generated club banger beats and repeat words until there is some sort of catchy vocal melody.

    I do agree with you that acts like Roxanne and crap, shouldn't even be discussed with such a list. But I rather that then someone lying to me and telling the fans that modern hip hop is gold. Again I am pretty knew to the genre, I'm not going to lie. I am no hip hop expert, but every time I hear a dirty south rap song (for instance) I want to kill the person who created it.
     
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    whoa whoa, no, no. I'm saying neither ends of the spectrum should be included. 85%-90% would be chosen amongst the "golden era." I'm saying that the older acts are overrated because they were the origins of the genre, but that it really was improved beyond them. Recent commercial acts are just garbage. However why not put recent acts on the list if they're Little Brother, Restoring Poetry in Music / Panacea, etc?
     

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