Olbermann's New Special Comment: Silence the Violence

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  1. Dumpy

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    But there's a difference between criticising someone, even questioning their experience, motivation, or history, and inciting violence. No one has been inciting any violence or creating an environment of hatred towards McCain, in part because everyone feels obligated to call him a hero. What McCain and his campaign has done is create an environment of anger towards Obama, and it has spun out of control. Jon Stewart had a cute little piece on that yesterday--comparing it to creating a Frankenstein monster.
     
  2. Jurassic

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    Do you really not understand? If the candidate stands there while someone yells "Obama is a terrorist!" or "McCain is a commie!" and they don't say anything, it speaks volumes about them. Allowing something to happen right in front of you at an event focused on you is largely different than an individual (famous or not) making comments through the media about the other candidate. One thing you are missing is that most of these Hollywood types who insult either candidate do not actually verbally endorse the other candidate. So you assumption that someone who attacks McCain supports Obama is just an assumption on your part.

    Really the part of your post that I had a problem with was this:

    1. The political understanding is not really up for debate, and can't really be known just because someone states their opinion. I could have a large understand of politics but still have a completely off the wall opinion.

    2. Does their level of understanding really matter (see the 1st amendment :lol:).

    3. You are basically saying that if they DID have a high level of understanding that it would be okay for them to spout off all the time. Ridiculous.

    Once again, not necessarily true. I've seen a John Stewart for example hate on McCain one night and focus more on Obama the next. Did you ever stop to think that some of these people actually hate both candidates but just happened to be caught in front of a camera while hating on one of them?

    Its funny how whenever you are backed into a corner you resort to this defensive crap. For all we know you are a half black half white senator raised by his Catholic grandmother. Get my point? This is the internet, we don't know what race you are to even consider calling you racist. So to me the fact that you would get all defensive about something that nobody here has even said, leads me to believe that you are indeed all of those things that you just sarcastically mentioned being.
     
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  3. Real

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    That's ripping into Obama?

    He's praying for his messiah to prosecute Bush and his cronies.
     
  4. Денг Гордон

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    He's telling Obama to stop being a hypocrite and prosecute criminals like the law says.
     
  5. Real

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    The way I saw it, he's saying "Obama, I love you, we're going to help you win. When you get in, I really want you to prosecute the Bush war criminals."
     
  6. RipCity

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    Ok...Lets get real here chief. McCain didn't allow people to randomly yell horrible things about Obama, he stopped in the middle of a speech and addressed the issue. Obama has not. Secondly, it's not an assumption that 85% of Hollywood is liberal. It's simple fact. The same can be said for people who attack one candidate or another without verbally endorsing either, of course there's a tiny chance they are independent, but by a large margin it's safe to say most people who attack McCain are Democrats/Obama supporters and vice versa. Once again...common sense people.





    1. It's not hard to imagine why you have no problem with people spouting of factually incorrect things on a normal basis, they support your candidate. I'd wonder how you'd feel about it when the shoe is on the other foot.

    2. Simply put yes, of course it is their right to say whatever they want, but being in a position to broadcast their opinion be it incorrect or not to millions of people, is a problem, expecially when they are incorrect.

    3. In a word, yes. If what was being said about McCain in Hollywood was factual, that would be ok, however 90% of it is not, therefore I have a problem with it. Just as I have a problem with people like Keith Olbermann lieing his ass off about McCain. I also have a problem with Republicans spouting garbage about Obama that is untrue.



    Congrats to John Stewart on his apparent bipartisanship, I don't watch his show so I wouldn't know.



    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm nowhere near backed into a corner. No one here has called me racist outright like that, however I've received that treatment elsewhere despite it having absolutely no truth to it. I have been called fanatical and insane here, and that's pretty offensive to me, sorry for having an opinion that happens to clash with yours and many others on this site.
     
  7. Jurassic

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    WTF I thought this thread was over and done with.....:sigh:

    Sure, Hollywood is probably mostly liberal. But do all liberals support Obama? More in this election that in any other I have heard people (people I know, not media) say that they are going to vote third party because they are disgusted with both candidates. Point being, a liberal who makes a negative comment about McCain does not necessarily support Obama. Get it yet?

    I want you to carefully read the bolded part of your statement, and I'll let you figure out on your own what's wrong with it. I'll give you a hint, how can you tell someone that the OPINION is WRONG?

    Well damn. So because some people somewhere else called you something you are going to bring your bad feeling about it on here. Brilliant. :rolleyes2:
     
  8. RipCity

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    Sorry, I've been busy ;)



    Sure, but as I said, for the most part, they do.



    Bad choice of words on my part, I should say when they use inaccurate information as part of their opinion. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, however they can be incorrect. An opinion formulated on incorrect information is still incorrect, despite the fact that it is an opinion.



    I was called fanatical and insane HERE, as I said no one has outright called me racist here, however it's been suggested without using that term directly. You picked one word out of 3 I used sarcastically. Brilliant, yes I know.
     

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