Great point about your second unit. The 2nd units of both these teams are going to be fun to watch. Sergio, Rudy, Travis, Frye and Pryz, damn! Even with Odom on your 2nd unit I like our 2nd unit better
Sorry I'm jumping the gun on the game thread, lol. Can't help it I rush everything just ask my wife Well not you DaRizzle, don't want my wife talking to any ex wanna be pornstars
OT- bendavis503- where is the Ha thread of all the photoshopped pics, which is where I assume you got that avatar- I've been looking for months and can't find it. thanks.
Bynum was kinda "underwhelming" last night again. He def. isn't the same without Kobe, and is still somewhat raw offensively. Bynum is a good rebounder and shot blocker though. Can't wait!
How is 66% FG shooting, 100% FT shooting, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 1 steal in 21 minutes underwhelming? So 12/20/6 is underwhelming if he played 41 minutes?
6 points from the hype he was getting is underwhelming. Its not a bad performance at all, but from expectations/hype it is a little "underwhelming". The same thing they were saying about Greg when he was gettin' like 13 and 7. He played well defensively though. His O game will get better when Kobe is in there, as Kobe helps him out on offense a lot with lobs and drawing defenders for a dish.
Well its preseaon and they are still ironing out the Bynum/Gasol playing at the same time details. Touches arent as important as having good position when you get those touches. We also had an offense last night where we didnt adjust to Kobe being out. Phil just put Ariza in to play exactly when Kobe would have played so it doesnt screw with everyone else getting used to their roles. Cmon guys, he took 3 shots and made 2...Its training camp. One thing I will say is I dont think he will score quite as much as I thought during the regular season not because he isnt all that I thought he could be rather that there are just too many damn options on our team for him to avg 18 points
Well I think you guys would have to admit that Oden is more of an offensive focal point than Bynum. Oden could possibly be your guys #1 option where Bynum could be as low as #3 for the Lakers. Oden will probably get more offensive touches than Bynum during the year.
Not even close. Greg took a shot once every 3.3 minutes played. The Blazers had 7 players that took shots more often than him this pre-season - in the following order: Aldridge / Roy / Travis / Rudy / Bayless / Batum / Webster Oden is getting his numbers despite the fact that he is clearly not the focus of the offense. He is just too strong, quick and tall to keep away. The Blazers will usually go into him quick, have the entire defense concentrate on doubling or triple teaming him (otherwise it will be a dunk) and make you pay for this with others. We can expect him to play most of his minutes next to Roy, Aldridge and one (or two) of Rudy / Webster / Batum / Travis -he will probably be the 4th option on offense for the Blazers to start the year. Once he regains his game shape quickness and stamina - I suspect we will see him graduate to be the 3rd option behind Aldridge and Roy. FWIW - Bynum takes a shot every 3.16 minutes played (based on pre-season play). He is clearly not the focus of the offense either - but he still is utilized more as an offensive weapon than Greg. Another interesting point - Oden got 24 offensive rebounds in 142 minutes of play vs. 4 for Bynum in a 158 minutes of play. It is clear that Greg gets a lot more of his attempts after offensive rebounds. While they shoot at more or less the same rate - Greg creates these opportunities for himself while Bynum has to have these made for him. Again - the numbers are clear - Bynum is more a part of the offensive plan for LAL than Oden is for the Blazers.
NO NO you are crazy! Oden is no farther up the line for the number one scoring option than Bynum. Roy and Aldridge are a head of him in the starting unit. They are the focus when the ball is in our hands. Oden is the #3 and it will be dropped to him to collapse the defence but he is not a more likely #1 but you are crazy.
As the numbers show - even Batum, Webster and Rudy take shots more often than Greg. Since he will play with at least 3 people from the pool of Roy / Aldridge / Rudy / Travis / Bayless / Batum / Webster - he will be the 4th option. I will repeat however that I expect this to change in the 2nd half of the season - when Greg will become the 3rd option when he is on the court.
I like Bynum a lot. He is a good player and will be one of the best centers in the league for year to come - no way around it. I just think that anyone that thinks he has a higher upside than Greg is clearly out of his mind. The only thing that can stand in Greg's way to being one of the top 2 centers in the league if not the best is health. Bynum is no chump change - but he just does not have the strength, quickness and it seems motivation to get there. This is going to be a D-Howard vs. G-Oden center battle royale for years. You get these out of this world centers twice a decade on average. Last decade it was Shaq and Duncan. A decade before that it was Hakeem and D-Robinson. Bynum is playing the role of Patrick Ewing. Not a bad option, especially for someone stolen with the #10 pick of the draft - but he is not going to dominate the way Oden and Howard will.
