Championship: Huevonkiller vs. DynastYWarrioR6

Discussion in 'All-Era Draft' started by DynastYWarrioR6, Oct 31, 2008.

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Champion?

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  1. Huevonkiller

    26 vote(s)
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  2. DynastYWarrioR6

    23 vote(s)
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  1. tim

    tim Respect JPJ

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    Huevon. sorry DynastyWarrior, I love it that Huevon took a risk on the new era guys. I think he deserves it.
     
  2. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    Alot of people love the new era picks cause they don't know the classic ones.

    I honestly think his teams two PGs were great to have cause they are pass-first guards, and his starting bigs were solid, but other than that, everyone else on the team minus the third stringers, will be fighting for the ball every time down. Arenas and Carmelo? Sounds like Denver right now. Some people saying VC and PP are at equal level on both ends with MJ and Scottie is a joke. MJ, if quantified was a 100% level player, and with Scottie that doubled and in crunch times tripled.

    Also, I chuckled a tad on the big astronomical, apocalyptical-scale drops in production of my players when they came to the NBA. Sorry, cosmic drops dont consist of 4-6 less pts and 3 less rebounds.

    Also since this is the championship, I'm gonna bring this argument into play: Rings.

    I have an experienced starting lineup who have played thru pressure situations and won championships. Scottie, MJ, and Reed's legacies are legacies because of their postseason success.

    With my third stringers, I wanted guys who may not get minutes, but could bring intangibles, OR sub in for one of my other guys if I think they are better suited. With Byron I have toughness and a leader, just check those Lakers teams. And with McGinnis, I have a Pacer legend who can come in for Connie if Connie isn't producing.


    Also, the PHX gorilla was gone once Darko was picked.
     
  3. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    I think my PG is much better than yours actually, Paul is such an amazing distributor and a much more efficient scorer. Monroe was a bit of a hog as well, as you sort of pointed out. :]

    Carmelo knows how to subjugate himself quite well, he plays with Iverson and gave it our all on the Olympic squad 3 straight years which was composed of other Superstars. Also I brought in my third stringers for the situations where two scorers on the squad are superfluous. Both Battier and Martin and great post/perimeter defenders.

    For players already being inflated by their ball possessions, yeah it matters.
    Reed shouldn't be lumped in there... I beat you in three spots DW, I think that covers your other edge in the starting roster. I believe I drafted the best towards the end of the draft as well.

    Meh my intangibles are just fine with the defensive subs I have.
     
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  4. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Reed should be lumped in there, he was a trifecta MVP award winning and an integral part of his championship teams. He has ring experience.
     
  5. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    He won an MVP, nice... He doesn't wow me with his scoring ability and his rebound rate hovers around 16-17 which is solid but not special in this draft. McHale simply amazed people with his arsenal of pump fakes and footwork in the post.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    They both were named to the Top 50 players of All-Time. They both are spectacular players, I just don't like how you act like Willis really was nothing. And he didn't win one MVP, he won 3 in one season :clap:
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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  8. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    Dwight Howard has a career average os 12.3 per game.
    Amare has a career rebounding average of 9.1 per game.

    Not very impressive in a draft like this.
     
  9. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    He never put an individual season together like McHale (26+ PPG in a slower league, led the league in FG%, outstanding defender). And Paul Pierce is solid but some people automatically dismiss him, yet I don't think that specific magnitude is insurmountable.
     
  10. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    To add:

    McHale averaged 7.3 rebounds a game.
    Robinson averaged 10.6 rebounds a game.
     
  11. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Dwight Howard's rebound rate was almost 22 last year, he would crush you on the boards.

    Amare is the best offensive big in this match-up, beaten maybe only by McHale, which I would be quite happy with.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    To add, it isn't just about rebounds, and Robinson has a career rebound rate of 21 at his peak.
     
  13. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    If we are going off a good year, then a case for a good year for ALL of my players can be made that are all better than the players you have. Using Dwight's one year of a high rebound rate is a weak argument, granted his career is still young.
     
  14. DynastYWarrioR6

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    My statement now applies to DRob since you posted after me.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Go off your peak years, I wouldn't sweat.
     
  16. JFizzleRaider

    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Right, I guess winning 3 MVP's and a championship in one season isn't a great individual season

    (3 MVP's in one season has only been done by one other man named Michael Jordan, who just so happens to be on DW's team).
     
  17. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Nash has two MVPS, Iverson has one as well.

    It certainly isn't the end all.
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    Both Top 10 players of all-time at their respective positions.
     
  19. JUNIOR MINT

    JUNIOR MINT 2010?

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    got to go with HUEVON', sorry Dynasty', but his front court is insane! Robinson? McHale? Amare? D12? Sure, Jordan & Pippen is nice, but none of his guards will be able to catch up with CP3, he'll just drive and throw it down low to any of those guys, and they'll just flush down on any of your big men's head, or dish for a 10-13 footer to Amare or D-Rob. & then you have, Gilbert, who's a good perimeter/3 pt. shooter, Carmelo a great perimeter shooter, aggressive slasher, Battier fine 3 pt shooter, and can play atleast good enough defense to contain Pippen. Let the team struggle and let Jordan shoot as much as he wants, 1 man isn't going to beat the team, it takes 5.
     
  20. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    You know what, you are right, your team has no ballhogs.
     

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