Championship: Huevonkiller vs. DynastYWarrioR6

Discussion in 'All-Era Draft' started by DynastYWarrioR6, Oct 31, 2008.

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Champion?

Poll closed Nov 3, 2008.
  1. Huevonkiller

    26 vote(s)
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  2. DynastYWarrioR6

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  1. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    What a great rebuttal...:crazy:

    Sounds like what your girl was sayin' last night :cheers:
     
  2. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    Don't go there on that one.
     
  3. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's what she said when I tried to pu...nevermind :pimp:
     
  4. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    I was being serious.
     
  5. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't see how Dynasty's team scores in the paint with D Rob and D 12 back there.
     
  6. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    The internet is serious business.
     
  7. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I know..

    That's why I stopped.
     
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    Yeah, you have guys that force stuff trying to make plays, not always shooting. Sounds like you don't know what force means.

    That's where you're wrong because when everything is on the line, that's when you want your best players taking the shots and doing their best. Celtics did prove that by having a big 3 getting shots with a bunch of good ROLE PLAYERS around them. DW's team also has everything you named off, and he arguably has the best clutch performer of all-time. You are also bring up an ERA where new technology is advance, you put Arenas, Pierce, or Howard back in the olden days, they don't have all the equipment to bulk up and get stronger to become dominant athletes. You bring Wilt into modern ERA, he'd own Dwight because he was already naturally physically gifted, throw him in a modern day weight room, no one stops him. In these kind of drafts, you look @ natural talent and basketball IQ. There is no way you can say guys like Melo, Dwight, and Amare are not dumb as rocks compared to old school basketball players. Michael Jordan and Pippen are also from the early 90's where they won 6 titles and are legends. MJ is a world phenom and will forever be known as the GOAT.
     
  10. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    MJ never won jack in the 80's though, he's not Jesus Christ.

    Basically you are making up an argument to neutralize the fact that I have better bigs. His bigs got the offense ran through them, they just don't have the skill Rob and McHale do. Players who take bad shots hurt teams, I've avoided that on my squad.
     
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    We aren't transferring players into different era's, so that is completely irrelevant. We're matching them up with how they are. Huevon's team is far superior in terms of athleticism, bigs, and they have some pretty damn good IQ.

    I wouldn't be questioning Melo's IQ, either. He was one of the main reasons why team USA got to where they did. D Rob? One of the smartest men to anchor the floor, CP3 and D Will are also very smart. I don't see how Dynasty's IQ is superior.
     
  12. DynastYWarrioR6

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    http://www.basketballforum.com/cpaws-cathouse/211236-posts-future-reference.html#post2751115

    Another cpaw request. He doesn't want to step in to S2, but he has his opinion. Again, just copy pasting, you can take it up to him if you guys want to talk about it. Although I find this funny to read.
     
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    Right...

    Pippen has a higher turnover rate compared to Pierce. Paul is the best passer in this matchup, and Carter's turnover rate at 9.8% is amazingly low.
     
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    If anything you want to ignore everything I say and take Volume stats as gospel which are usually more flawed than paced-stats. I see a lot of things to discuss, so generalized posts like that gets us nowhere.
     
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    What the fuck, stop having Cpaw make your argument. That is damn lame. You can't make your own?
     
  17. DynastYWarrioR6

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    Okay so take two things that cpaw said and disregard everything else I said.

    Calling me out on this shit. I've been sitting here retorting things left and right from both of you, so don't even say shit like that to me.
     
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    :biglaugh: Want some tissues?

    I've hit some buttons with you, tonight.

    Mamba wins, again.
     
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    Your previous post was so broad it applied to you at least just as much.
     
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    MJ also never had anyone good around him in the 80's, Pippen was still young and developing into that great sidekick. The funny thing is you can say that about so many of your players too in a weaker less dominant ERA.....Arenas, Melo, Battier, Kenyon Martin, Paul, VC, Deron, David Robinson(in his prime),etc. The problem is that you don't have better bigs, you are just assuming you have better bigs. You are throwing out their prime years because they were in the ABA. If you want to throw out ABA years, throw out Melo's Olympic experience that Mamba keeps bringing up because he was playing Iran and China, hell even Argentina and Spain aren't even that great compared to an NBA team.

    You were trying to put Arenas, Dwight, & Melo in a different ERA, so you are saying your points are irrelevant also. He isn't far superior in athleticism either because DW's starters are just as athletic and they'll be playing most the game anyways since they are all big minute guys. You keep bringing up guys that will play limited minutes in a series, Arenas would only take about 3 shots a game, so he wouldn't be dropping "60". You obviously don't know Melo if you think he has a great b-ball IQ.
     

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