Chavez offers talks with "black man" in W.House

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  1. CelticKing

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    Chavez offers talks with "black man" in W.House

     
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    Another reason not to vote for Obama.

    Every enemy of the United States, wants Obama in the office, that alone should give you signs of what kind of candidate the Democrats gave to you guys.


    VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!! VOTE COUNTRY FIRST!!!!!
     
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    I see no reason why our government shouldn't at least talk with people like this. Even is they are liars and cannot be trusted, keeping the lines of communication somewhat open seems like a good idea to me, so long as we realize who we're dealing with.
     
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    Well, we have diplomatic relations--although strained--with Venezuela. You don't have to talk head-of-state to head-of-state for diplomacy to work. We talk to every single country on this planet as well as many extra-governmental organizations. Giving Chavez the prestige of a meeting with the President is a ridiculous move, however, and one that won't serve our interests.
     
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    I'm not so sure I agree.

    Let's face it, we're also a country of serious human rights abuse. We have a certain amount of government corruption as well and we have had recent presidents (like the last 2) who were not completely honest. What can't their be some sort of "honor amoung theives"?

    Besides, it may set the stage for something good down the road.
     
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    Virtually every enemy and every ally is supporting Obama.
     
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    Perhaps that can be used to our advantage.
     
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    If you choose to believe the United States and Venezuela are morally equivalent, we're going to agree to disagree.
     
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    If I weren't American, I'd support Obama too. He's willing to give up a chunk of America's sovereignty just to get other countries to say nice things about the US.
     
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    I certainly wouldn't go that far. But let's face it, we're no puritans.
     
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    How is he going to give a chunk of America's sovereignty?

    I am interested.
     
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    Me too, let's hear this.
     
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    We don't have to be virginal to not consider ourselves whores.
     
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    I'll give you one example. Signing the Kyoto Protocols would be giving up a piece of our sovereignty.
     
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    Good line. LOL!
     
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    Do you think that signing any international treaty equals giving up a piece of USA sovereignty?
     
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    No, but one that economically ties our hands behind our back while others are allowed to pollute scot-free is an exercise in stupidity.
     
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    I agree it is an exercise in stupidity.

    But I don't think it is giving up sovereignty as much as any other international treaty.
     
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    Limiting our nuclear arms when we have the ability to still destroy the world a few thousand times over doesn't limit sovereignty. Signing a free trade agreement with other countries doesn't limit our sovereignty. Signing an agreement capping the amount of pollution (and thereby energy) we can produce while not limiting all other countries is giving up soverignty.

    If you want another example, the World Court in the Hague is a fine one.
     

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