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  1. Denny Crane

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    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="yspsctbg" align="center"><td colspan="6" class="ysptblhdr" align="left" height="18">Regular Season</td> <td rowspan="200" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> <td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FG</td> <td rowspan="200" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> <td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">3PT</td> <td rowspan="200" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> <td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">FT</td> <td rowspan="200" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> <td colspan="4" class="ysptblhdr">Rebounds</td> <td rowspan="200" class="yspwhitebg" nowrap="nowrap" width="1"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> <td colspan="7" class="ysptblhdr">Misc</td> </tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right"><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18"> Date</td><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18">Opponent</td><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18">Score</td><td class="yspdetailttl" height="18">GS</td><td class="yspdetailttl" height="18">Min</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Off</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Def</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Tot</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Ast</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">TO</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Stl</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Blk</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">PF</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pts</td> <td> </td></tr><tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> Nov 1</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">MEM</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">W 96-86</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">26:04</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">75.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td></tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right"><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18"> Date</td><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18">Opponent</td><td class="yspdetailttl" align="left" height="18">Score</td><td class="yspdetailttl" height="18">GS</td><td class="yspdetailttl" height="18">Min</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Off</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Def</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Tot</td> <td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Ast</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">TO</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Stl</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Blk</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">PF</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pts</td> <td> </td></tr><tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> Oct 31</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">@ BOS</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">L 80-96</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">28:51</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">17</td> <td class="yspscores">11.8</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">7</td> <td class="yspscores">8</td> <td class="yspscores">87.5</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">6</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">11</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> Oct 28</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">MIL</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">W 108-95</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">41:26</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">10</td> <td class="yspscores">50.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">8</td> <td class="yspscores">62.5</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">7</td> <td class="yspscores">10</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td><td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">15</td> <td class="yspscores"> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" colspan="3" align="left"> Total</td></tr></tbody></table>
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align="right" height="18"> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left"> Year</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left">Team</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">G </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Min </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">M</td><td class="yspdetailttl">A</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Off</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Def</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Tot</td><td> </td><td class="yspdetailttl">Ast</td><td class="yspdetailttl">TO</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Stl</td><td class="yspdetailttl">Blk</td><td class="yspdetailttl">PF</td><td class="yspdetailttl">PPG</td><td> </td> </tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2006-07</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CHI</td><td class="yspscores">72</td><td class="yspscores">13:24 </td><td class="yspscores">1.9</td><td class="yspscores">3.9</td><td class="yspscores">47.5</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.5</td><td class="yspscores">2.4</td><td class="yspscores">60.6</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.2</td><td class="yspscores">2.5</td><td class="yspscores">3.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.6</td><td class="yspscores">1.3</td><td class="yspscores">0.6</td><td class="yspscores">1.1</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">5.2</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2007-08</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CHI</td><td class="yspscores">74</td><td class="yspscores">18:00 </td><td class="yspscores">2.5</td><td class="yspscores">6.0</td><td class="yspscores">42.3</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.1</td><td class="yspscores">16.7</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.7</td><td class="yspscores">2.4</td><td class="yspscores">74.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.4</td><td class="yspscores">3.2</td><td class="yspscores">4.6</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.2</td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">6.8</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"><td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2008-09</td><td class="yspscores" align="left">CHI</td><td class="yspscores">3</td><td class="yspscores">32:06 </td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">10.7</td><td class="yspscores">21.9</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.3</td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">5.0</td><td class="yspscores">6.7</td><td class="yspscores">75.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">4.7</td><td class="yspscores">7.0</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.0</td><td class="yspscores">2.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.3</td><td class="yspscores">2.7</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">9.7</td><td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"><td colspan="2" align="left"> Career</td><td class="yspscores">149</td><td class="yspscores">16:06 </td><td class="yspscores">2.2</td><td class="yspscores">5.1</td><td class="yspscores">43.4</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.0</td><td class="yspscores">0.1</td><td class="yspscores">11.1</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.7</td><td class="yspscores">2.5</td><td class="yspscores">67.8</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">1.3</td><td class="yspscores">2.9</td><td class="yspscores">4.2</td><td> </td><td class="yspscores">0.9</td><td class="yspscores">1.2</td><td class="yspscores">0.7</td><td class="yspscores">1.1</td><td class="yspscores">2.3</td><td class="yspscores">6.1</td><td> </td></tr> </tbody></table> 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  2. Denny Crane

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    9.7/7 on 22% shooting.
     
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    The way I look at it, Tyrus needs to stay out there for the next several games, and we need to give it as much of the old college try as we can. If he can't make it work and at least sort of get settled, he's pretty much out of excuses and we need to accept that he's probably not gonna.
     
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    Yeah, I've figured Tyrus has probably got until the all-star break to put things together. What type of players with his qualities coming into the league really turned it on after their third season? I can think of Jermaine O'Neal, but that's about it. Most of the time those guys end up like Darko or Stromile Swift.

    I understand the rawness argument, but at a certain point, if you're good then you're good. Dwight and Amare were good from day one. Even guys who were completely raw but had enough talent put things together by their third season, like Andrew Bynum. Before too long I think we'll be able to judge whether or not Tyrus is a 6 million or 10 million a year kind of guy.
     
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    Tyrus to the bench for Aaron Gray, but he responded with what looks like a very solid game. Perhaps his best since the first of the year.
     
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    That's been his pattern all along. I'm looking for improvement, not 2 good games out of every 7, or a good game only when the match up is favorable.
     
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    I didn't watch the Bulls last year after the first thirty or so games. But Tyrus looks like a different player than I last observed. I can understand the frustrations here, but Tyrus isn't like Noah. He's slowly developed his skills and is becoming better at all facets of the game. I hate preaching patience, because so few players learn the game once the get to the NBA. Tyrus may be an exception. His ball skills are better; he has a much higher basketball IQ; he's scaring people in the paint; and his jumper is starting to become more fluid. I think he has a place in the league, and on our team, and a situation that is conducive to his growth. Gooden and Rose are both good compliments. He may deserve more time than usual because of how ill-developed he was coming into the league.
     
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    The Bulls are quite a bit more watchable than last year SST. Actually, they're infinitely more watchable since anything time the zero they were last year is still zero.
     
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    Looking at the boxscore, Tyrus' statline is modest but not awful. He also played 33 minutes, which isn't too bad. Was he guarding Dirk most of the time he was there? If so, it looks like Dirk had a slow night. Did things work out this way or am I using wishful thinking?
     
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    I thought he played pretty well last night. He wasn't throwing up a lot of bad shots, and he was running the floor and collecting blocks and loose balls. While he's not gonna live up to his billing that way, he was at least useful last night and stopped the bleeding that was Joakim Noah.

    Deng actually played Dirk (really well) most of the night after an embarrassing first stint on Howard.
     
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    Unfortunately for Tyrus, you don't get any points for hitting the back of the rim with the ball. But if you did, he'd be an all-star. If he would just stay closer to the rim. There were a couple of plays last night in the first half where a put back was blocked and Tyrus was standing out on the perimeter. Wtf is he doing out there? I know spacing is important, but once the shot goes up, crash the boards. In the second half he was doing it, but you'd think that wouldn't be a halftime adjustment thing anymore.
     

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