This is disgraceful

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Denny Crane, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    The will of the people was overturned by 4 judges. So they put the measure on the ballot to overturn the 4 judges and guess what, the will of the people was upheld.
     
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    Why not. I support that. Unions for all, marriage in the church. Credit Maxiep.
     
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    #1_War_Poet_ForLife The Baker of Cakes

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    Yeah, it's hard for him to see threads outside the Blazer board. But he will if he wants to! :ghoti::devilwink:
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    I don't even support prop 8 but I think people have been harsh on Xericx. His position is different from that of CK's for example.
     
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    If the will of the people were to make black people slaves again?

    The answer to this rhetorical question is obvious - it's unconstitutional, the courts would and should strike it down. Same as the 4 judges did, and rightly so.
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Come on now, slavery?
     
  8. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    Fine, lets get serious then.

    You keep saying that "there is no discrimination." Prove it. I believe that there ARE fundamental differences between marriage and civil unions, even in California. I will provide the same number of citations as you have for the opposite proposition. . . . Done.

    Prove me wrong. Just three reputable cites will do.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I picked something equally obviously unconstitutional where the will of the people is irrelevant.
     
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    put it to a vote and see what happens. my guess is that it won't pass.
     
  11. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    I'm a Jew. I guess no marriage for me.
     
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    Uh right... Slavery is comparable, got it.
     
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    I posted the laws earlier in this thread.
     
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    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001-01000&file=297-297.5

    Full text if you've bothered to read it.

    so please, inform me what rights are being taken away?
     
  15. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    uh huh. Are civil partners entitled to federal social security benefits due their spouse when he passes away?
     
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    exactly. the poor analogies to slavery does more harm than good to their cause.
     
  17. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Now you're getting it.
     
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    This is a state matter. Recognized by the state and its entire scope is based in California. As far as the state of california goes (which is the measure I voted on in this state and in the scope of this state alone), all rights are equal.
     
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    Quite over dramatic.
     

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