Bush wins!

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I would have been happy to see Clinton get a third term. I suspect there are many people who would have been happy with a third Reagan term. I'm too young to remember how people felt at the end of Eisenhower's 2nd term. I guess everyone was ready for LBJ to go at the end of his 1+ terms. Ford and Carter and Bush 41 got voted off the island, so clearly people were ready for them to go. Nixon and JFK were special cases.

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Clinton couldn't have left soon enough for me.............the piece of crap.
     
  3. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    I was definitely ready for Clinton to leave. Didn't realize how good I had it.
     
  4. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    The parents of young White House staffers were happy to see Clinton go.
     
  5. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    I never understood why people thought he would be a good president eight years ago.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I bet the parents of all the young soldiers who died are glad Bush is leaving office.
     
  7. BLAZER PROPHET

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    I think because he, in many ways, was a contrast to Clinton. Clinton was a weak person and were it not for deeply partisan politics would have been removed from office. Also, appeasement as a foreign policy was getting very old.

    Bush represented a "whoop ass" type of mentality. '

    When a pendulum swings too far one way, people want it back the other. So our national politics goes back & forth. That's why we have 2 parties. Eventually, people get sick & tired of being governed by one or the other and want a change.
     
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    A criminal and a traitor to our country, he's very lucky Americans are stupid and lazy.

    Any other country would have put him in front of a firing squad long ago.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not that it is worth the debate, but if not for deeply partisan politics, he wouldn't have been impeached in the first place.

    Is whoop a synonym for dumb?

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    Well, a lot of pundits have no job once they wind down this election so they're milking it for all it's worth.

    As is Palin. She refuses to go home and govern her state, and continues to grab every microphone and tv camera she can find to whine about her "mistreatment". She has shot her wad politically, so to speak, but apparently didn't get the memo.
     
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    I'm hardly a Democrat and I didn't vote for Clinton either time, but I know I don't stand alone in saying if it weren't for deeply partican politics we wouldn't have wasted so much valuable time on such a BS issue. As much as anything thats when the recently deceased era of Republicans lost me.

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    To whom? :dunno:

    I always viewed him as a snivelling, cowardly, spoiled rotten Mama's Boy. The kind who'd throw a rock at you when you're not looking and then hide behind his big sister in fear.

    The closest he ever got to "whoop ass" was a bit of S & M in the Lincoln Room with Cheney holding the paddle.
     
  13. mook

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    You can sell whoop ass and not live it.

    Which, come to think of it, is a pretty good epitaph for Dubya.

    I have never, in all my life, seen more hat and less cow. Which is a pretty big insult from a Red Stater.
     
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    Well, at least he had some back bone. I know it runs contrary to you to consider making a positive comment about anyone or anything conservative, but while democratic appeasement brought terrorism to our shores, Bush stood up to it. Maybe, at times, in misguided ways, but he did when others couldn't.
     
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    Nice to know you haven't lost your inability to think with any sense of objectivity.
     
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    Who was the president for 9 months leading up to 9/11 again?
     
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    I can understand why people voted for Bush.

    I could never understand why people thought he would be a good president. All the signs were there from the beginning that he was going to be a partisan slave to the extreme right-wing of the party, and would be a devisive figure and not a uniter. Not to mention that he was obviously an idiot.
     
  18. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Less an idiot than the guys he ran against in 2000 and 2004.

    Says a lot about the political system.
     
  19. Dumpy

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    as I said, I understand why people voted for him. But there is a difference between voting for the guy and actually believing that he would do a good job, as ridiculous as that sounds. I mean, really, why should anyone be at all surprised that his presidency is ending like this? I'm not saying that as a way to argue that Gore and Kerry should have been elected instead; far from it. Just that I dont know why anyone would have had high expectations for the guy.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    While it's easy to cherry pick all the bad stuff that happened during his two terms, I'm convinced historians will look back on his presidency with a lot more positive outlook. On so many of the big ticket things, he made serious efforts to change/improve them. There's medicare prescription drugs to supplement the joke that is social security, and there was the attempt to tackle the 3rd rail itself. Education (No Child Left Behind) was and still is one of the biggest wastes of govt. effort (all along), but at least he did something positive. Then there's campaign finance reform he pushed for and signed, Sarbanes-Oxley (corporate reform), the fairly successful reorganization of numerous agencies into Homeland Security (the biggest reorg in govt. since the New Deal, in fact). Rumsfeld gets a bad rep for many things, but his work at restructuring the military should not be ignored. His handling of the 9/11 attacks was so good his approval ratings were in the stratosphere.

    And even the Iraq War will end up being a huge plus on his record when the historians put the length of the occupation and problems we faced in perspective.

    I'm not a Bush fan by any means, and didn't vote for him either time.
     

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