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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    OK, but the argument has been that he is an above average player in close games at the end. The stats back this up as well, as has been proven here and on BBF.

    So why the continued anti-Outlaw stance from you? It diminshes your reputation, IMO.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Which stats, beyond the team's record? We've already agreed that that's not a very good statistical measure. As you said, "I've made that same argument many times."

    Saying he's a big plus on offense is anti-Outlaw?
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I'm not going to post them all again, but the stupid "Kyle Lowry for Travis Outlaw" threads on BBF showed what Travis meant last year in the 4th quarter, and even more so at the end of close games.

    You are asking me to prove 19/24. I think it's up to you to prove how Outlaw playing meant the team lost those 5 games.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I haven't asked you to prove anything. I simply inquired about the stats you mentioned.

    Why do I need to prove that? I don't think Outlaw lost those games.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    You posted earlier that perhaps the team would have won those five games without Outlaw in the line-up at the end. Do I need to be your post caddy? ;)
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Yes. I said it was possible. How does that relate to me believing that playing Outlaw is what lost those games?
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread


    How does it relate to you posting in the negative about those supporting Outlaw?
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I'm not really sure what that means. I said something negative about Outlaw supporters?
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    You seem to be following us into pro-Outlaw threads and bringing up counterpoints.

    Isn't Travis a member of the team? What is wrong with a "Fan Club" thread dedicated to him, and why the treatment for those who appreciate what he does for the team?
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I haven't said anything negative about Outlaw in this thread. My comment about his defense was in a different thread.

    Very much so.

    Nothing.

    I haven't treated people who appreciate Outlaw (which includes me) differently than anybody else. If you mean the treatment by someone else, you'd have to ask them.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread


    Your position is quite clear. Thanks for clearing it up in the "Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread". No need to rewrite history for the sake of saving face.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Good. I'm glad I could clear up my position on whether a Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread is cool.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I like Frye as a person from his blogs/interviews/etc, but please stay on the bench until you get a consistent J Chan-man!
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    I think the people that think Outlaw is the odd man out are clearly letting their personal feelings cloud their judgement. Travis wouldn't be playing so many minutes and at crucial times of the game if McMillan didn't appreciate what Travis brings to the floor.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Decent game tonight. 13 pts, 7 rebs, 4 assts, 2 blks. Lots of big plays down the stretch.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread


    Funny thing is I thought he was having an off-game, and then the 4th quarter hit...
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Please provide one link to those "threads".

    Please.

    You distort others positions to buttress the irrational defensiveness you feel regarding Outlaw.

    Ed O.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Yep!

    He was absolutely having an off game, but he sure had a great 4th.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Travis having a great game tonight.
     
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    Re: Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread

    Travis had his bad plays tonight, missing crucial FTs and a shot at the end that would've given us a 3 point cushion. But he also did a lot of things right. He played game winning defense on the final posession. He SKIED for a couple HUGE offensive rebounds down the stretch and most importantly, he led us back into the game in the third quarter when we were down 8 and about to get blown out on our home floor. The 7 points, including a key three pointer (he shot 1 of 1 for the game, continuing to be one of the top three point shooters in the game today) and a fast break dunk, he scored in that stretch put us back in charge. He also had 2 steals and 2 impressive assists.

    On the subject of assists, Blake had 4 tonight. Props.

    Go Blazers.
     
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