Again, Christians are an easy target because they don't have the special social stigmas that criticizing muslims and jews in public have. Santa represents CHRISTMAS, which is a christian holiday. there's no denying that.
nice persecution complex you have there, but you're wrong. vocal atheists and atheist authors tend to speak out against radical islam way more than they do christianity. and they don't speak out against jews as much as fundamentalist christians because jews aren't trying to advance a dangerous political agenda in the USA.
no, because Jews are a protected group under hate crime legislature. Again, I'd like to see them put up an anti-Allah billboard and see if they live the night. and what is this "dangerous political agenda" you're referring to? Paranoid much?
"but these bible thumpers! they're dangerous man! they're backwards man!" please, this is rhetoric libby bullshit and you know it. they have their causes they support, like many people do...but seriously, who gives a shit about it. These atheists can attack other religious, but as I've stated and is fact, the Christians are very easy to attack because they don't have the same shields that muslims and jews have, not becaue of their "agenda".
Dangerous political agenda? Yeah but pushing a pro gay marriage and pro abortion agenda isn't dangerous at all.
the billboard is not a hate crime, or even a slander. it's not saying a thing derogatory about christians or anyone else. and they are using santa because he happens to be the subject of the song they wanted to use the "be good" line from (duh). "anti-allah" meaning saying allah doesn't exist or why believe in allah wouldn't be a problem. numerous atheist speakers/authors have publically trashed islam in general without repercussion. publically depicting and/or trashing muhammad would be a different story, but note that the sign isn't trashing jesus. right now atheists are mainly concerned with the christian right undermining science and the environment. thankfully bush was such a bad example that the religious right won't have much influence in foreign policy for a while. the gay marriage thing is also socially divisive (obviously), as is their strict stand on abortion.
if you can explain why gay marriage is dangerous without appealing to your religious belief in any way, since your religious belief means nothing to me, i'd be happy to listen. so far you haven't done that. and NOBODY is pushing a "pro" abortion agenda. most atheists or other so-called "leftists" are against late-term abortion unless the health of the mother is threatened. at the same time they don't believe a zygote consisting of a few cells is a human. the abortion issue isn't nearly as black/white as christian fundamentalists like to paint it.
What aspects of undermining science and the environment are you referring to specifically? I've never heard of this, and am really wondering why the atheists really care. These ads seem more like a "hey, look at me, I'm relevant" more than anything. If they really want to fight dangerous religious activities, they should buy a sign that says "Allah, if he were alive, wouldn't want you to hate us". or something lame like that. But if they want to make up their lame signs, so be it. Atheists are irrelevant to society in general as most of the world has some sort of religious views.
no, not a good enough reason. of course, that's an incredibly stupid statement from bush. like i said, i don't see the point. you're atheist. great. who cares? whether someone is atheist(or christian or jewish or muslim etc) or not really doesn't matter to me in any way. my "wait, what" was more of you referring to someone being homosexual as if it were some terrible thing that would make them unqualified for holding public office.
We have the potential to create Armageddon here on earth in Israel and a number of people look forward to that happening as it will be a sign of Christ's return. No matter whether it's caused my human tomfoolery, there are people out there who would believe it to be of a divine execution. I would call that dangerous.
Uhhhh....yeah, I don't think most bible thumpers really want to nuke Israel. I would imagine most of them don't even care or know about that whole area. I don't. Don't give a shit about it really.
Well, you missed the point then. It is a stupid statement, but a POTUS got away with saying it. The point of the ads is to create a voice so that the POTUS will never again be able to get away with saying such hateful things.
hahaha. really? people look forward to us creating an armageddon on earth so that christ will return? sure. maybe some people do. crazy people. there are crazy people of all faiths(atheists included).
It's advertising for atheism. You may not care, but advertising clearly matters in terms of swaying people...if it weren't effective, people wouldn't spend millions on it to sell products and try to get elected. As for why atheists would want to sway people, religion has a major effect on politics in this country. If there were no religious people, for example, the political landscape would look very different. Better or worse, obviously, is based on the perspective of the observer, but religion is important factor in our policy so why wouldn't people who dislike its effect run an ad campaign against it?
ah, so in order to get your point across about not saying hateful things the proper course of action is to take shots at people who have different beliefs than you? i got it.
they are continually and doggedly pushing for teaching creationism as an alternative to evolution in public science classes. hard to believe in our enlightened era in such an advanced country that this would still be an ongoing fight, but it is a huge deal to a lot of fundamentalist christians. also their environmental agenda tends to be for short-sighted goals rather than long-term, presumably because they think the rapture is imminent. people who currently define themselves as atheists are a small minority, but that's more a matter of semantics than anything. the actual number of people in the world who DO NOT believe in an intervening god or gods is approaching 30% and is much higher than that among educated youth. the number of people who don't believe in "god" is hardly irrelevant.
You wanted an example of a dangerous political agenda and I gave you one. I don't think most Christians want to nuke Israel either. But evangelical belief holds that there will be a great Satan who brings Armaggedon to Israel and in turn there will ensue a battle resulting in the end of days. Maybe you don't believe in that but it doesn't matter what you believe. There are still people out there who look forward to a great war in Israel and for no other reason than their faith.
Who cares if they are pushing to teach creationism. Its a world view held on to by most of the world, they should be aware of it. Not in science though, but it should be in some sort of historical curriculum. What is their environmental agenda specifically? You seem to be purposefully vague here. And people who don't believe in a higher deity ARE irrelevant. They are fringe people with a fringe agenda. So go ahead and advertise!
