Al Franken is Challenging This Ballot

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The agenda is pointing out how Franken and his team are trying to steal the election they lost.
     
  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Considering it's Minnesota state law to have a recount if the #'s are withing a particular %, he's not trying to 'steal' an election he 'lost'.
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    Let them recount the ballots, of course. Let's not divine the intent of the voters to change a vote from one person to the other.

    As I pointed out, you might let me divine the voters' intent. They're all for Coleman!

    (In other words, it's not really about the voter's intent after all)
     
  4. Dumpy

    Dumpy Yi-ha!!

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    You'd make a heck of a civil servant.
     
  5. PapaG

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  6. Denny Crane

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    Civil servants are political hacks.

    In FLA 2000, we saw 3 person committees 2/3 democrats stealing votes for Gore. It was blatant, but those who supported Gore wanted the win more than they cared about democracy.

    If they count the actual votes and Franken somehow wins, he wins. Right now he for certain doesn't have more votes than Coleman. Get it?
     
  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If you don't think Coleman is doing the exact same thing, you're a bigger fool than the evil Spock.
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    Coleman has more votes, he doesn't have to challenge a single ballot.

    I may not be spock, but I know how math works and who's got more votes.
     
  9. PapaG

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    Win at all costs...the odds of this happening are astornomical.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454605,00.html
     
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    That ballot is obviously a Coleman vote and it will be counted as such once they review all these appeals, I'm 100% sure.

    What's shady is how the original poster cherry-picked this one instance out of hundreds of ballots challenged by both candidates to make it look like Franken is trying to "steal the election." Check out this link for a whole bunch of ballots challenged by both campaigns; they're clearly both challenging anything that has even a 1% chance of being overturned. They're both playing the same game.

    And, for the record, Coleman has challenged more ballots than Franken. Most expert observers (I am definitely not one) think that the vast majority of these vote challenges will not be sustained.

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2008/11/19_challenged_ballots/
     
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    The Coleman campaign challenged this, for example:

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    I think that challenge is exactly and precisely as ludicrous as the one Franken made in the case cited by the original post. I'm sure both will be rejected. But both candidate's lawyers are pursuing the same strategy here.

    And through Day 1 of the recount, Coleman has challenged 115 votes vs 103 for Franken.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/on-first-day-of-recount-franken-gains.html

    Sure looks like Franken "stealing the election" to me...

    SR
     
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    Pretty much anyone is preferable to me than Al Franken.
     
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    My preference is that every unethical congressman be drummed out of office. Stevens is a huge relief. It is a shame about William Jefferson and a bunch of other reps that were reelected.
     
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    Here's another one the Coleman camp is challenging:
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    And here's one the Franken camp is challenging as being an invalid ballot for having two votes for President:
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    Here's a ballot that wasn't counted as an overvote- Franken's camp is challenging that status:
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    Coleman challenges:
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    Both challenge:
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    All these and more are from http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2008/11/19_challenged_ballots/
     
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    So Franken voters also double the votes for "Lizard People". Why is that guy's finger in one photo?
     
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    There are lots of ways people misvote. This guy cut his finger off and taped it to the ballot pointing to the candidate he was voting for.

    barfo
     
  17. PapaG

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    That is dedication, and that is worth a double vote.
     
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    Oops, maybe I spoke too soon.
     
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    They should just let me recount those votes, I would be perfect for the job. Even though I wanna punch Al Franken in his ugly face.
     

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