Today i was reading Netsdaily and say like 5 or 6 articles on how many in toronto feel Coach Frank out coached Mitchell. So one could maybe assume that mabye that could be grounds enough for making him not the worst coach. In an example of what the articles were saying i copied a post from a toronto blog reguarding this topic. [November 22, 2008 Game 12: Raps vs. Nets - Post-game JayJay wrote this today: Well, the guy who we said the Raptors couldn’t have hurt them, seriously hurt them. Well, he more than hurt them, he killed them. Vince did everything that a team leader was supposed to do last night, making the shot to send his team into overtime and then finding a way to get loose in overtime to throw down a dunk to win it. But realistically, this is another game that the Raptors let get away and while we have been defending Sam here, this could be the game that essentially sealed his fate. I bring up Sam’s job security here because there really isn’t any excuse for a) Vince being able to even get a 3-point shot off at the end of the game; b) Vince being able to get loose at the end of the game for a dunk. You have to know that when the game is on the line, there is only one guy the Nets are going to look for. If the ball isn’t going to Vince with the game on the line, then something is seriously wrong. So you have to wonder why the Raptors didn’t foul Vince as soon as he touched the ball before taking the 3. Sure, you don’t want to foul him in the act and send him to the line for 3 easy ones, but at the same time, we’ve all seen him make clutch shots before (and also miss them…if we go back to the infamous final shot against Philly). Apparently the word from Sam is that the players were instructed to foul Vince if his back was to the basket, but why the hell would his back be to the basket that far out with hardly any time left on the clock? That should have been a slap right away. As far as the dunk in OT, that’s inexcusable. Again, you know that with that little time left on the clock, the Nets are going to look for Vince. Lawrence Frank is a smart enough coach that he is going to draw something up for Vince, get the ball in his hands and let the fate rest there. So the fact that he essentially just walks around two Raptors on his wayk for an easy ally-oop just makes you wonder what is going on defensively for the Raptors. We have brought up a million times here that the worst part about Sam is that coming out of timeouts or on inbound plays, the Raptors can’t run an effective play. Roaches when the lights come on. Everyone just running in circles with their hands up. It’s embarrassing. The fact that AP had to take a timeout when he couldn’t get the ball in and then the ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE gaffe of Bargs not inbounding the ball at all comes down to coaching. At worst, if the 5 seconds that SHOULD be internally counting down in your head is about to expire, toss the ball off a defender’s leg or try to force a pass. You can’t just stand there with the ball and turn it over. I mean, really. Once again, the Raptors showed their inability to step on a team’s neck. There were plenty of opportunities for the Raptors to close this one out, but they kept letting the Nets back into the game. That’s the difference between good teams and .500 teams. If you can’t close teams out when you have the lead in the 4th quarter, you don’t deserve to win. You have to have that killer’s instinct that the Raptors clearly do not possess. I am not sure what it will take for the Raptors to gain that instinct, maybe it’s another coach, but if they want to move forward, if they want to become a better team, things are going to have to change. Popularity: 5% [?] * Filed under: Raptors Forum So do we have the worst coach in the nba, or maybe we have diamond in the ruff.
haha, I actually thought this was a bash Lawrence Frank Thread and I was furious until I read it. I think Lawrence is not one of the best, but he's REAL legit and Sam Mitchell... well, me and my friend discuss this all the time, he's flat out terrible... and lucky Brian Colangelo is there.....
We don't see what goes on behind closed doors. In the past he didn't have players that could do what he wanted. In RJ, he had a player that REPORTEDLY fought what the coaching staff was trying to sell. Now, for the first time, the front office has wiped the slate clean and given Frank the players that he wanted--the players tha can do what he wants the team to do. Every expert said the Nets would be horrible. The Nets are 6-6. That seems to suggest that he isn't a bad coach at all, at least when it comes to preparation and establishing a team identity, etc. I can't comment on in-game decisions, but there is more to being a coach than that. He has a reputation for desigining good players consistently following a timeout. I think part of the problem has been that there has been a disconnect between the players that Coach Frank wanted, and the players taht the front office obtained. Part of that was undoubtedly due to the fact that, until this year, they had to fill out their roster on the cheap. By all measures, this team is overacheiving. They are 6-3 when Devin isn't hurt! They are 4-1 with Devin not hurt, and Brook in the starting lineup! They play hard and they play together. They seem to take pride in team success; they congratulate each other and no one complains about playing time. Isn't that the definition of a good coach?
I like when people do that, because I figure it gives us carte blanche to turn the thread into whatever we want.
Frank is a damn good coach. No way in the world anyone expected us to be 500 right now. No freaking way. The way we beat Hawks back to back and the win against toronto was amazing. He prepares the team and make excellent in game adjustments. The man tries so damn hard every game. You can hear him bark out orders to Yi every defensive sequence. I love that. Hes teaching the young man and the team every possession of the game. Nets are lucky to have him.
huh?, the thread title asks a question that many on this board have stated based on little fact or intelligence. So yes i did ask the question and felt it was a bit ironic that in other nba forums fans seem to think Frank is a basketball genius especially compared to lesser coaches. So yes i did choose the title to get attention, attention to what a good coach we actually have...
He's not the worst but he is one of the bottom 10 worst in the league. And it's funny Raptor fans/Net fans praising him for that play to Vince Carter which was drawn up by Brian Hill. He used that same play in Orlando for Dwight Howard. [video=youtube;xf5r8b66G5o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D32bhJhpRYM[/url] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf5r...OLOR="Red"]Thank You coach Hill ![/COLOR][/B]
The first one was using Hedo as a decoy for the pass back 3 pt., Reddick and Nelson were thier best catch and shoot guys, they ran a criss cross while at the bottom DW sets a pick (Hill made that play happen for the screen out shot instead option 2 was DW and he rolls down and alley oop GW dunk). The Carter play he's the hot hand and that play really was for Devin Harris and VC was option 2 and what happened was the pick by VC sent Calderon to Harris and they forgot VC could dunk. Watching it over again both plays were triggered by the screen at the bottom and the first option getting freed, Spurs royally F'd up because w/ .8 there is no way that Hedo can get a catch and shoot when he's inbounding it leaving Nelson as option 1 they should have let Duncan go 1 on 1 w/ that block opputunity instead Duncan had to pick up Nelson and Howard w/ .8 got the amazing dunk. The Raptors Calderon just spaced out he got so worried of Parker not getting a block on Harris that he forgot Vince was a slam dunk champion.
He made that play, drew it on a board chalkboard. I didn't say he invented the alley oop..his drawn up play is what won that game.
The point to coaching is not to design the most original play. It's to call plays that work. Frank did, give props.
