Maggette next to be traded?

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  1. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10716

    I mentioned this in another thread right after we traded for Crawford. We just have too many wings who need shots and replicate one another. I'd say Buke or Mags has to go but Mags makes a lot more sense financially. We've got Jack, Craw, and Mags all on 10 mil/year deals, plus Monta making a bunch of money.

    So who could use Mags? Bill Ingram mentions the Mavs here and they have some nice pieces. I doubt they'd be willing to give up Howard but it might be worth inquiring with his recent off-court issues. I'm not interested in Terry with Monta/Crawford already here (plus his contract is horrible). Stack has fallen off a lot over the last season or two and still has two years left on his contract so not really worth taking on.

    The Spurs had a lot of interest in Mags over the summer and apparently made a last minute bid for Harrington before we traded him to NY. They seem to be desperate for another scoring threat and they need athleticism on the wing badly. The problem is they don't have much to send back. Outside of the big three its mostly old guys who don't fit our system (K. Thomas, Oberto, Bowen) or guys they probably wouldn't trade to us (Roger Mason, George Hill).

    Bobcats seem to be interested in making changes too. Is LB a fan of Maggette? Wallace is up for grabs and would be a PF under Nellie I would assume but his contract is a lot to take on and hes injury prone. Plus hes redundant with Wright and Randolph already here. J-Rich would be cool to have back and his contract is shorter than Mags' but we'd have the same problem as before. Not much else there besides that.

    And just throwing this one out there but how about Toronto? They're seriously lacking in perimeter scoring with Calderon, Parker and Moon as their starters at the 1-3. They're looking to compete this year and I assume they want to show Bosh that they're pushing to be contenders. Mags seems to be a good fit with Calderon handling and passing and JO and Bosh holding it down in the paint. Calderon, Parker, Mags, Bosh, JO is a very solid looking starting unit. If they were willing to give up Bargs I think this has potential. Bargs + extras (Kapono? Garbajosa's expiring contract? Ukic? Moon? Joey Graham's expiring contract? picks?).
     
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    i was thinking the same thing, you should try and move him for a shooting 4 though, and try and get some more size.
     
  3. WarriorFan

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    I'd be fine with them making another deal but I definately would not want someone like Terry.

    What would be the point? We've basically got 4 quality guys (when Monta comes back) playing the 1,2, and 3 and they are all really interchangeable. I don't count Buike and CJ becuase while they are good d-league finds, they are not someone you build a roster around. By trading for someone like JET, we still don't have a pass first guard, we still have 4 big money guys playing those same 3 positions, and we lose that versatility. One of Monta/Crawford/Terry would have to be one bench at all times and Jax would still need to play 40 minutes a game.

    We do need size but we're not going to get a great big guy for Mags and I son't want to keep Wright on the bench for a mediocre player.

    I'd only really be interested in trading for cap relief so we can make a run at someone like Bosh or packaging Mags with Wright/Randoph/Buike/Beli to get a very good, near all star 4.
     
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    Trade him for scraps (i.e. expiring contracts). Jerry Stackhouse would be perfect.
     
  5. Run BJM

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    Agree with you guys that a big would be nice but unlikely that Maggette is enough to bring one back. There's speculation that the Jazz will shop Boozer because he can (and probably will) opt out of his contract after this season and they probably don't want to pay him. Maybe Mags, Wright, Beli, picks? Soemthing like that? Its an outside chance but other than that I don't see us getting any bigs who would be of much use.
     
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    Randolph?!?!?!?

    I think Mags, Azubuike, and Bellinelli are the most expendable. I'd hate to give up on Bellinelli along with Wright, but due to the logjam at SG, his days seem outnumbered, UNLESS, Azubuike AND Mags are sent somewhere. I doubt that would happen given their contracts are brand spankin' new.
     
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    Oh man, that would be sweet. Andris + Boozer = dominance.
     
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    I'd love to be able to keep Randolph and Wright but I think we'd need to give one of them up to get a difference maker. If we had to give up on them for Bosh or Boozer I wouldn't even think twice. I am concerned about how Boozer stabbed Cleveland in the back, though. I can definately see him becoming a cancer if things so south.

    Wright is the guy I'm most reluctant to give up on. I still don't know what position Randolph will play when he's done developing. I'm afraid when he adds some weight he may end up like Jamison, who is still good but not a traditional 4 like I want.
     
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    Bring his ass to Toronto. We'll give you Kapono, Moon and 2 Draft picks along with Ukic. Seems fair to me.
     
  10. Run BJM

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    Doubt that works salary wise. Plus we have 16 players on the roster right now, that will have to be cut to 15 when Monta comes back so we definitely can't do a 1 for 3 trade.
     
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    LOL, done!
     
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    why not just keep maggette? when monta comes back, throw him, crawford, maggette, sjax, and biedrins out there and let don nelson coach his game.
     
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    I don't mind trading Mags at all. I still want a pass-first PG on this team, a floor general. If we could trade Mags and get a PG prospect, I'd be for it.

    For example, if we could trade Mags to Portland for Jarryd Bayless + filler (Outlaw, Pryzbilla, Webster, come to mind) that would be sweet. If they wanted more for that trade, we could make it bigger for both sides.

    Or, how about Mags for Steve Blake + filler (again, Webster or Outlaw work). Portland would then have a great SF to play with the other pieces, and they could have Rodriguez + Bayliss to step in at point.

    Rodriguez
    Roy
    Mags
    Aldridge
    Oden

    That looks good for Portland.

    Blake
    Monta
    Crawford
    Jax
    Beans

    (or)

    Blake
    Monta (Crawford 6th man)
    Jax
    Wright
    Beans

    That looks good for GS. We finally get a pass-first PG who can make the offense flow, handle the ball, relieve Jax of his *cringe* PG duties, and run the fast break like a true PG (get the hint, CJ Watson?)

    Or, how about getting either Raymond Felton or DJ Augustin from the Bobcats?

    Bottom line for me: How can we turn Maggette + filler into a quality, pass-first starting PG?






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    I like Maggette. The Warriors shoot the most free throws in the league, mostly because of this guy.

    I am not against trading Maggette for a GOOD PG, but I don't want to see the team trade him for some scrubs.

    I also question the credibility of the article. I think everyone on the roster is not really untradable, and I think anyother player has just as much of a chance of being dealt next. And I am pretty sure there will be another move this season.
     
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    You guys are all still assuming the Warriors are looking for a PG. But I think it's pointless to pursue that until there's some indication that Nelson has given up on converting Monta to a PG. He hasn't done that yet. Thus, Monta is your PG until further notice. I think we should be looking at stud PFs instead, with Wright as bait if necessary.
     
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    What about for a power forward? It wouldn't be good for Wright though...
     
  18. Doctor Kajita

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    How about expiring contracts and/or draft picks?
     
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    I'm not assuming the Warriors are looking for anything. I'm saying that they should trade Mags for a starting PG.

    CJ Watson has already taken over PG from Stephen Jackson, and if Monta comes back and struggles, I don't think Nellie will ride it out forever. I could see him moving CJ Watson to PG, Monta to SG and Jax to SF. But that would still suck because Watson isn't a pass-first PG and he can't run the break.

    Get Steve Blake on this team to run the team with Monta, Crawford and Brandon Wright -- that's high octane. That's run-n-gun small ball. Blake would be perfect here.
     
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    See you later Maggette. I've been impressed with how he played in the Bulls and Blazers games, he was unselfish and played tough D. But he's a rhythm killer and just a teaser to let Nellie think he can get away with this ridiculous small-ball.

    Let's take Stackhouse and let his contract expire. Give Randolph and Wright the time at the 4 to develop, that's their natural position and they should play. If you are going to let Monta, Crawford and Jax jack up shots, you need rebounders, Biedrins and the young guys.
     

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