Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Who would you rather have on your team? Both are young, talented, and great rebounders.I would take Amare. His athletic ability is beyond belief for someone his height, and he is bigger and stronger than JO.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Amare is 4 years younger than Jermaine. And as you said, he's athletic ability is amazing. The defense will come later.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Even though Jermaine has proven his game, game in and game out; I'm going to have to go with Amare. Amare has really come a long way with his game. He has only been in the league for a short period of time and he has already learned how to dominate in the paint and his athletic ability helps make him the great player that he is.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? seeing how things are going with amare's knee, ill take j.o. of course amare's upside is still there at 23(?), but j.o's veteranship, size, and defense wins my vote
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Amare. I dont care about what Jermaine does on defense, or in the post. Amare is an athletic beast, and the best scorer for a big man. He is a very valuable player to have if he is healthy.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Actually, when both are healthy this is pretty tough. I'd take Amare because of amazing athletic ability and a better offensive game, but O'Neal is a better defender and rebounder. But when healthy, Amare has proven at times to be completely unguardable, and that is something extremely rare for a post player in today's NBA.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (falconman1130 @ Oct 11 2006, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Amare hands down.</div>any reason behind this?anyways, at least o'neal throws a better punch from what ive seen
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Feb 11 2006, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who would you rather have on your team? Both are young, talented, and great rebounders.</div> First of all, Amare is not a great rebounder. The bulk of his rebounds come from his athleticism and strength, not actual position and rebounding skill. Jermaine has rebounding skill, he gets position, and he boxes out. But overall, I would say Jermaine is probably the more complete player when they are both healthy based on his defensive ability and shot blocking. But I would still take Amare because of his freakish athleticism, strength, and explosiveness. Jermaine is an excellent all around player when healthy, but when Amare is healthy, you've seen it - he can put up 40 on Tim Duncan without breaking a sweat (ok, maybe he breaks a sweat, but he's still dominant).
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Everything CelticBalla said is so true. A player who can torch a great team like the Spurs on a H-O-F'er like TD is incredible. Amare used to be so much fun to watch. JO is getting to the point where you have to ask, "What have you done for me lately?", not much. Amare has been to the WCF I believe. And has torched great teams. Therefore, I take Amare.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Trifekta @ Oct 12 2006, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everything CelticBalla said is so true. A player who can torch a great team like the Spurs on a H-O-F'er like TD is incredible. Amare used to be so much fun to watch. JO is getting to the point where you have to ask, "What have you done for me lately?", not much. Amare has been to the WCF I believe. And has torched great teams. Therefore, I take Amare.</div>Amare went to the Western Conference playoffs, with a loaded team in the Suns. Jermaine O'Neal hasn't had much around him to help with the past like three years because of injuries, suspensions, and other problems come playoff time. He has still managed to take his team to the second round in two of the past three seasons. Unfortunately in the 2004 playoffs thy faced the Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals and lost, which that might have been a different outcome had Reggie Miller gone up harder at the end of game 2 and not softly like he did which got the block from Prince. In 2005 Jermaine O'Neal was the leader of a suspension and injury plagued team and still got them past the first round against a more talented Boston Celtics team at the time. Unfortunately they again got put out by the Pistons. So lately he has done as much as he can, and done alot for his teams.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Oct 12 2006, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First of all, Amare is not a great rebounder. The bulk of his rebounds come from his athleticism and strength, not actual position and rebounding skill. Jermaine has rebounding skill, he gets position, and he boxes out. But overall, I would say Jermaine is probably the more complete player when they are both healthy based on his defensive ability and shot blocking. But I would still take Amare because of his freakish athleticism, strength, and explosiveness. Jermaine is an excellent all around player when healthy, but when Amare is healthy, you've seen it - he can put up 40 on Tim Duncan without breaking a sweat (ok, maybe he breaks a sweat, but he's still dominant).</div>That has to be the longest timespan of a quote I've ever seen. 8 months and 1 day between our posts.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Oct 14 2006, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That has to be the longest timespan of a quote I've ever seen. 8 months and 1 day between our posts.</div> What are you talking about? The post that you quoted, I made 2 days ago. 8 months and 1 day... what?
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? Easily Amare, because he has youth, had great atheliticism, and in the playoffs 2 years ago, he averaged 32 PPG.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? ^Exactly. He has the size, strenght, speed, iq, potential, offensive ability, defensive ability, etc.
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">I'll go Amare, too. Without his injury, he would have been on the verge of "TOP 5 IN THE LEAGUE" status. Might have averaged 20 and 10. Though Jermaine does that already, Amare is younger and more athletic (without injuries, of course).</span>
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? although I'm a jermaine fan, gotta go with a healthy stoudamire
Re: Jermaine O'neal or Amare Stoudamire? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Oct 22 2006, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>although I'm a jermaine fan, gotta go with a healthy stoudamire</div>I don't know who Amare Stoudamire is.But if this thread were about JO or Amare Stoudemire, I'd pick Amare Stoudemire. He may not rebound as much etc. now, but he's like 5 years younger so by the time he hit JO's age, he'd do that and probably more. He's more athletic, and without that injury, he'd be an elite PF, with Bosh and D12
