u cant really be talking when wade had good players around him Odem,Butler and others and the alls-atr line-up this year but Lebron only had Big-z and in his first 2 years big-z was so so he got injured alot during his first year. Also he didnt get another side kick untill this year and u know what happeneded to larry hughes but still this is the year when the Cavs make the places where u can judge Lebron on how he does in the playoffs
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (amanuel @ Feb 15 2006, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>u cant really be talking when wade had good players around him Odem,Butler and others and the alls-atr line-up this year but Lebron only had Big-z and in his first 2 years big-z was so so he got injured alot during his first year. Also he didnt get another side kick untill this year and u know what happeneded to larry hughes but still this is the year when the Cavs make the places where u can judge Lebron on how he does in the playoffs</div>Lets hope, after seeing that Hughes is out for the year.
lol there still hasnt been a good point that supports wade as the better player. all I've heard is, WELL HE'S A GOOD SLASHER and LEBRON HASNT EVEN BEEN IN THE PLAYOFFS!!! lol this is a joke I dont even think its close. Lebron is a top 3 player and wade barely squeezes into the top 10.
LeBron is 2 for 18 all time when trying to tie the game or win game in final 10 seconds. Wade is always hitting game winners....the detroit game, NY last year, etc... Wade also plays tougher D. Other than that, bron has him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Feb 16 2006, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron is 2 for 18 all time when trying to tie the game or win game in final 10 seconds. Wade is always hitting game winners....the detroit game, NY last year, etc... Wade also plays tougher D. Other than that, bron has him.</div>alright if you know that lebron is 2 for 18 whats wades %?
Wade has hit big clutch shots in the playoffs. Lebron hasn't hit any memorable shots. Michael jordan missed more gamewinners than he made. Doesn't make him less clutch.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Feb 17 2006, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wade has hit big clutch shots in the playoffs. Lebron hasn't hit any memorable shots. Michael jordan missed more gamewinners than he made. Doesn't make him less clutch.</div>im not saying hes not clutch, i just think people dont give lebron credit. People just have this perception that he's soft in the 4th quarter when hes not. Its not like he always gives the ball up like some people implied(which is just plain stupid I might add) hes one of the best scorers in the league, better than wade and hes more dangerous in the clutch because he has better range. Im not saying lebron is more clutch(even though I wouldn't really know because niether of them have been in really big clutch situations) im just saying he seems like he would be more of a threat because of his range. I mean how many times do you see a layup taken as a gamewinner? almost never.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Delonte4Prez @ Feb 16 2006, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>alright if you know that lebron is 2 for 18 whats wades %?</div>No idea. ESPN brought that stat up during the Cavs-Denver game a few weeks back (a game in which LeBron missed game tying free throw with 1 second left and Cavs lost). Wade has hit many clutch shots. Against Indiana in playoffs in rookie year, a few buzzer beaters last year (Knicks one jumps off page for me because I saw it on TV live), Pistons game this year, etc... Wade is much more dangerous in the clutch because he is a better midrange jump shooter. LeBron usually drives in the final seconds, gets fouled, but he is not a great free throw shooter, and seems to miss the big ones. And unlike LeBron, Wade demands the ball in final seconds.If you don't call him soft in 4th quarter, than what is he? Did you see the Golden State game when he shot 1 for 3 in the whole second half of a very close game? Did you see yesterday vs the celtics when he missed game winning shot in OT, and fouled Pierce in 4th quarter so he could tie game up? Did you see against NJ a few months back when his team wa smaking a comeback he just stayed to the side (I was there for that game). Did you see the Lakers or Denver game when the opposite superstars made game tying or winning shots, and then when he had a chance, blew it? He is still soft in 4th quarter, but that is something he will eventually improve on.
The final straw where i knew there was something wrong with lbj was his airball a couple of days ago. The boy can't handle the pressure. Hope to god he can later.And wade hits his midrange shots when needed. The gamewinner against the pistons was a midrange shot were Wade abused prince like he always does.I just like Wade's style of play, that never say die attitude, that no fear attitude.
Lebron doesnt have the fire that Wade/Kobe/T-Mac/ect. has. Those guys want the ball late and will kill you almost everytime. Lebron has yet to learn that attribute.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 17 2006, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron James doesn't have fire? Maybe you just don't watch enough Cavalier games.</div>Ill say it again. Lebron doesnt have the fire/killer instinct like the other guys I listed. Having one game where he singly handly took out a team (Suns) doesnt mean he can do it on a nightly basis.
I don't like when people say that Wade only made it to the playoffs because he has Shaq. His rookie year he didn't have Shaq. The Heat started 0-7, Wade carried them into the playoffs, and single handedly won the series against the Hornets. His first playoff game ever he made a game-winning buzzer beater. Then last year, Shaq was injured during the playoffs, he carried the Heat past the Wizards and Nets alone, then he destroyed the Pistons, they had no stop for him, until he got injured. He is one of the only players ever to average 30-8-7 (I believe) in a playoff series (did it twice in one season last year). And then there is also crunch time where Lebron doesn't even compare to Wade. Look at the all-star game, less then a minute to go, East up by 2, something like 18 seconds on the shot clock and Lebron shoots a 30 foot 3-pointer and misses. Wade on the other hand gets an offensive rebound with seconds to go and makes the game winning shot. Back on defense, West's last chance, and Lebron fouls T-Mac with seconds to go (they didn't call it but Lebron admitted it). Lebron doesn't know how to win plain and simple, and maybe it is because he is younger, but who would I rather have on my team? It's gotta be Wade. Who has more skill, I would probably say Lebron, but not by a lot, he gets an advantage because of the 3-point shooting.
I think they are both really good in their own way. You can't really compare them that much, because there games are so much different. Dwyane Wade, has definitely shown he is clutch, he is a lot quicker then LeBron. I think LeBron can shoot the ball a little better. They both can pass decent and they both have decent defense. If I had to pick which is better. I would have to go with Wade. He is a team player and hits shots when needed(If you need proof, just ask someone about the game he beat the Pistons). Or, just look at the all-star game. Wade was more of a team player. LeBron tried to force way to many shots and he had the most shot attempts for the East. Wade did what he needed to. He hustled down court and made plays each game. He even hit the game winning shot for the East.
Well this is hard. They both have different styles. But I think it would go to James. He has been doing great. So has Wade but i'll just say James.
How can you talk bad about Lebron during a ASG?In that game no one plays defense. So you are gonna put down Lebron because he fouled T-Mac on that final play that had no meaning? I find that to be quite harsh.
I don't know if there is a correct answer to this one lol. I will take Lebron for the fact that he is 6'8 and can play the 1-2-3 because of his size. Honestly, I love them both so it's a toss-up.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JMay @ Feb 22 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if there is a correct answer to this one lol. I will take Lebron for the fact that he is 6'8 and can play the 1-2-3 because of his size. Honestly, I love them both so it's a toss-up.</div>That's true, but to remind you, Wade was a PG his rookie year, plays SG, and is SF when Payton and Williams are on the floor.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (anypoint @ Feb 17 2006, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lebron doesnt have the fire that Wade/Kobe/T-Mac/ect. has. Those guys want the ball late and will kill you almost everytime. Lebron has yet to learn that attribute.</div>Did you jsut say Tmac had that fire? He is maybe the one top 10 Player in the league who DOES NOT have that fire, or so it seems. Can't tell with that face
