Predictions and Expectations by the Deadline 2/19

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  1. BlazerFanForLife

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    The NBA trade Deadline is February 19th. The Blazers will be 53 games into the season at this point, what will their record be? What trades have the Blazers made and what is our starting lineup. Also feel free to make any predictions as far as how players are playing.



    My Predictions:

    Record 34-19

    Trade (Very Unlikely Scenario)
    Portland Trades:
    Raef + Outlaw + Bayless + Blake + 2009 draft pick and 2nd rounders (if necessary)

    For

    Vince Carter + Devin Harris.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...15~136~2382&teams=17~17~17~17~22~22&te=&cash=

    The Nets choose to tank for the next 2 seasons and will have immense amounts of cash to spend in 2010 along with a new Arena in Brooklyn. Its also possible that we would only acquire Vince and Ager for Raef and Outlaw + Pick.

    If Trade #1 goes down which I don't think is likely but it would be my dream scenario our roster would be:

    PG- D.Harris, Sergio
    SG- Roy, Rudy
    SF- Vince, Martell
    PF- LaMarcus, Frye
    C- Oden, Joel

    (Another Idea would be acquiring Monte Ellis if he is disgruntled in GS after how they treated him)


    That said whatever trade is made I expect it to be for a SF just because of how hard it is to find a PG that would fit with this team and the fact that there are more quality SF's then PG who are available. I expect Oden to be playing a lot better after his first 30 games or so and hopefully by this stage of the season Bayless gets some burn during the Blazers many blowout 4th quarters. Also Kobe will break his elbow while flailing his arms imitating a foul and the Lakers will move into the middle of the Western conference standings
     
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    I expect that we will be 30-23.

    Our starting lineup is:

    Sergio
    Roy
    Webster
    Aldridge
    Oden

    ** I think Outlaw and Raef are gone by the trade deadline- probably for a point guard, but I'm unsure who- Harris, if we could get him, maybe Bibby with another piece, or Hinrich
     
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    Trade (Very Unlikely Scenario)
    Portland Trades:
    Raef + Outlaw + Bayless + Blake + 2009 draft pick and 2nd rounders (if necessary)

    For

    Vince Carter + Devin Harris.

    You are absolutely hilarious. That's not enough to get one of them, let alone both.
     
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    Pau for Kwame Brown and Jarvis Critten is a fair trade? If NJ were to do this trade they would only have 6.6 million commited going into the 2010 free agency. Ofcourse they will need to round out their roster but if they are able to do so for around 15mil they would have a plethora of cap space to sign 1 if not 2 great players, they would also be in Brooklyn which is more appealing then many small markets so yeah I don't think its totally out of the realm of possibility. I personally wouldn't trade Harris for anyone but Vince has a bad contract and if the Nets want to focus on the future I could see them shipping him out in a salary clearing move.
     
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    They wouldn't be in Brooklyn

    Harris is only making 7 million that year.

    Memphis also got Marc Gasol, who's been very good.
     
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    Pau also publicly demanded a trade. Vince has been committed to the rebuilding effort.
     
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    32-21

    The only changes I see in the starting line up is maybe Webster over Batum but either way they both get minutes at the SF. I see Travis backing up at the PF.

    Players most likely to get traded are Raef, Frye,and Sergio. Sergio only if KP feels that he will look to move on when his new contract is up. So much depends on how they view Bayless.

    The question is who to bring in? Do we want to rent someone like Vince Carter , Marion, or Bibby for 2 months? (definitley not carter) Then either sign them to a 15 million per year contract or let them walk? Only if we give up Raef, Frye or Sergio. But not Travis.

    Outlaw should only be traded for a long term piece of the puzzle. Maybe Conley if KP feels he is the guy and Sergio won't stay long term. I see why Memphis wants Outlaw. They have No back up SF on their roster.

    But my prediction is Raef, Frye and Sergio will be traded for Marion
     
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    Carter isn't a rental.
     
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    I agree. And he is certainly no one I would want long term. So lets take him completely out of the equation. He just does not fit with what KP is trying to build here.
     
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    Rod Thorn != Chris Wallace.

    Thorn's a hardass.
     
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    The race for the NW Division title will still be up for grabs between us, Utah and Denver.
    And I don't think any trades will be made.
     
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    Uh, last year the rumor was VC for Jason "White Chocolate" Williams and Ricky Davis's expiring contracts, and couldn't get NYK and MIA to buy off. They got turned down offering him for a broken-down Jermaine O'Neal.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...with_jason_kidd_gone_vince_carter_rumors.html
    It seems odd to ridicule people for their trade thoughts, when it seems you're not holding tightly to the historical grasp of GM moves over the last half-decade.
     
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    Rumors which hold absolutely no bearing.

    He hasn't asked for a trade. He is making 14-16 million the next 3 years, and while his athleticism has lowered, he's become smarter. He's the healthiest he's been in years (he was playing through injury last year). He's having, all around, one of his best years to date.
     
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    That above trade is MORE than fair value for Harris and Vince.
    Bayless- Who could end up better than Harris
    Blake- A steady player to be a stop gap PG, also has a short contract
    Outlaw-Starting SF, great contract and clutch player, great chemistry as well
    Raef-Saves you 13 million
    1st in 09-Draft wisely and you could have a Batum/Rudy type with that pick

    Like it or not, Vince is a bad contract, and should not be apart of any rebuilding process. Harris is great but I think Bayless/Outlaw/1st is enough for him.

    I personally wouldn't do the deal. I don't want Vince on this team. too big of contract and notsure he'd want to take a backseat to Roy and LMA.
     
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    Bayless might be better than Harris.

    Greg Oden might be like Jason Collins without the defense or box outs.
     
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    lmfao!!!!
     
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    I'm going to go trade DeAndre Jordan for Dwight Howard now, since you know, he's on that second round contract and might become better than Dwight
     
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    Rumors "hold no bearing"? OK, I'll go there.

    1) Marcus Camby to exchage a 2010 2nd round pick.
    2) The aforementioned Gasol trade. Did you really pooh-pooh it b/c "Marc Gasol is very good"? He's 12/7 in 30 minutes. That's ok, but it's not "very good". So an OK center, a 3rd string PG/SG, 12M expiring and two late, late first rounders is the going price for an All-Star PF/C in his prime 6 weeks before the trade deadline?
    3) Marion and Banks for Shaq?
    4) Kurt Thomas AND two first round picks for a 2nd round pick.
    5) Beno Udrih for a 2nd rounder.
    6) Bibby for 2 backup PGs, a backup PF/C, Expiring contract and a 2nd.
    7) Steve Novak to exchange 2011 2nds.
    8) Zach for Tim Thomas and Cat Mobley. Zach also is making 14-16M, playing the best ball he has in a while, been smarter, kept his nose clean, and was shipped b/c someone wants to try really hard for LeBron. You think NJ won't?

    And the NJ Special... R-Jeff for Yi and Simmons. I would submit (and not iron-clad) that R-Jeff has MUCH more value than Carter, and it ended up being Yi and Simmons. That's it.

    Those are just over the last 18 months. Trades aren't just based on player talent. They just aren't. And GMs around the league have adjusted their scales.
     
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    If ORL had just traded Rashard Lewis, for, say, Joe Alexander (mid-lottery pick) and Charlie Villaneuva, you might have a point, if you add some 1st rounders and an expiring contract and drop Howard's value around the league over the course of 4 years (oh yeah, and make him, what, 32?).

    You're just becoming a little silly now.
     

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