Capitalism demands blood sacrifices. This man's family should be proud that he died so that 100 odd people could save on consumer goods just a little faster than the people who didn't kill someone.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Is "trying" important here? If you yell fire in a crowded theatre, are you blameless if you didn't intend for anyone to get hurt? You think it is just some sort of accident they get the shoppers they do? Not anymore than we should ban soccer due to the occasional riot. Why shouldn't there be? My answers are rhetorical too. barfo
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Yet nobody was trampled in the other stores. Think man, think.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers I knew you were just making it up. Never let the facts get in the way of your opinion.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Yep, you're right. Any retail store that puts its merchandise on sale the day after Thanksgiving is definitely encouraging people to kill other people. It's just common sense.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers And what facts might those be, pray tell? And do provide links. barfo
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Seems like kind of an extreme view, when you exaggerate it to absurdity. barfo
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Why blame the store? This is clearly a manufacturer's responsibility issue. Sue the makers of all products sold at Wal Mart.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers What? So you are blaming Walmart too?...or sarcasm?
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers I am blaming the employees in the store. Nobody else was trampled in any other store, so it's pretty simple to come to a conclusion. Walmart are responsible for their employee's actions, so in turn, they are to blame.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Sorry, but I'm not letting you off the hook. Yiu made a statement of fact and I asked for the link. I'm still waiting. We all are. Now either you made it up to support your aebate or you didn't. Which is it?
As already stated, this death lays at the feet (pun not really intended) of those who trampled this person to death. It's not the store, not the manufacturers, not the unions, not President Bush... Here's a quote by an ex Wal Mart worker from a different message board: I worked as a Wal Mart dept mgr for several years, quit six years ago - and the violence, rudeness, and hysteria were as much a part of the (unadvertised, undocumented) insanity of Black Friday then as they are now. It is simply an exacerbation of how many people behave every day of the year - talking on their cells, rude to cashiers who ask required questions, using their carts as weapons to break into lines, shoving their carts over and around others, letting their dogs wander around in the stores peeing on everything and becoming nasty when they are asked to leave, acting as if the stores' employees are mere servants to their ever-grasping desires. Now that I no longer have to work it, I refuse to get out of bed until a reasonable hour on Black Friday - and then I sit in my robe at my computer and order what I want online, coffee in hand.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers I know that my opinion on this matter is waiting to be swayed on whether barfo can provide links on something I can't even remember. It must have been important. edit: okay I went back and looked. "Seems to me..." is hardly a statement of fact. seem /sim/ [seem] –verb (used without object) 1. to appear to be, feel, do, etc.: She seems better this morning. 2. to appear to one's own senses, mind, observation, judgment, etc.: It seems to me that someone is calling. He was obviously saying that something appeared apparent to him. He's already said it was an opinion. Does he have to provide a link proving it was his opinion? So why not drop it and get back to discussing how somebody died as a direct result of our consumer culture instead of nitpicking semantics with someone who you disagree with?
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers People keep talking about facts and other trivial things but what I want to know is what your opinion does to establish that WalMart INTENDED to incite a riot? In my opinion WalMart would never intend to do such a thing as it would hurt their sales, the most important thing to them. Using this logic, Rodney King should have been convicted of inciting a riot.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Yes. This really isn't hard to understand. Walmart put items on sale, because they wanted to rake in big profits. Idiotic people, killed a man, because they felt getting to a blu-ray player or something first was more important than another person's life, so they had to tear down a door and trample him. What is Walmart suppose to do, give the employees machine guns to shoot down these idiots?
Thoughts: 1. As bad as it is for the 1st, or, say, 10th person to line up to get into Wal-Mart for Black Friday... what is the 1756th person thinking? There's a lot of fucking people there, and you need a $9 Incredible Hulk DVD that badly? 2. I hope that Obama can bring the kind of change that allows us all to go to Kohls, rather than having to settle for Best Buy and Circuit City. The economy is really in shambles when we're reduced to shopping at big box electronics stores. Ed O.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers I guess it is hard to understand for some people. WalMart should be taken to civil court. If WalMart is to blame in criminal court, then so is yahoo and my local news station. They promoted these sales as NEWS stories. Show me one thing that proves that WalMart wanted to start a riot. Common sense tells you that they wouldn't.
Re: OT: Walmart worker killed by frenzied shoppers Shouldn't Walmart be the one taking people to civil court for damaging their door?
