http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2008/12/mails_in_dynamic_duo_edition.html Hmmm... If Devin, Brook and Yi continue to improve and show/maintain a star/starter level of play, that would make them more more likely to trade Vince? I would think that would make them more likely to keep Vince and try to acquire another star player at the 3 or maybe the 4. But Dave says they would be looking for a young guy who could possibly break out into a star player if they were to trade Vince at some point. Looking over some teams the only team that looks like a potential trade partner is the Clippers(oh god) where Gordon is involved along with Camby's contract possibly in a three way trade for Vince. What other young swing man could they target in a trade for Vince? Or could they just go for some unprotected picks to try and luck out in the draft lottery? And is a big fish in 2010 still a realistic plan?
I highly highly doubt Vince Carter is traded this season, or next for that matter unless it's for another star player. The reason for this being with the move to Brooklyn pushed to 2011-2012 at the earliest, the NETS need to have some kind of star player in the Zod to keep what little fans that show up, still coming out to the arena. Also Bruce is a business man, and he wouldn't do a move that would hurt the NETS financially like less ticket sales or season ticket renewals. He wants to have a decent enough product on the floor in Jersey so fans will make the move with them to Brooklyn.
LOL Dave D, he was so down on the RJ trade over the summer. Down on the Nets in general. Said some things he shouldn't have. However, it's better to be proven wrong being negative than the reverse. 50% of trading Carter, when Carter makes the shots on if and when he's trade. What does that mean? Kind of like the cup is mostly full, but I'm holding the refill pitcher??? Doesn't mean anything.
I doubt it. He's too important to the continued development of these young guys. They need the encouragement from a successful veteran. Maybe next summer. Maybe.
Vince is way too important to the continued development of the young guys and he has led the team perfectly so far. They can't trade him.
I doubt he gets traded anytime soon, especially with how he's leading this team so far. But if they do trade him I hope they have the decency to trade him to a contender and not some crap team considering all he's done for the Nets.
If he's traded to a team that looks like a contender by the time Thorn is done with them they won't be a contender anymore... see Dallas.
If he gets traded it will have a negative impact on the chemestry this team now has, it will also affect the youngesters who look at VC as their leader.
Trying to make sense of a VC trade. One Lebron is not coming ever so losing VC what exactly are you trying to gain. Yes their are more players in 2010 than Lebron Bosh and Wade but if your are trying to win and compete for a title those are one of the players you will need. Plus why are the Nets clearing all this space. How will you be able to attract players to come play here?? Devin Harris is okay but that's not enough. Yi?? He's Nenad Krstic with better handles. Lopez? Let's wait two season before we say he is legit. The Nets don't be careful they'll end up like the Bulls back when they had all that cap space but no one wanted to play there. Then the big question how long does Devin accept losing?? He's doing good now but teams are focusing on VC. You subtract that it's Starbury all over again
I usually like Dave D, but not here. He's talking out his arse. He almost admits to as much before he launches into his hypothesis. Yes, if the winning trend does not continue, I could see a trade done involving VC, but I think it more like 30%. The problem I have here with Dave is the statement: "If Devin, Brook, and Yi continue their development." WTF?!?!?!? 1) If Devin gets any more 'developed' Mark Cuban will kill himself. 2) Lopez - he's a rookie, there will be ups and downs, "development" is something you see in yrs 2-4. 3) Yi - "continues to develop"?????? Umm, that implies that he has already started to Develop. I still hope, but so far, I don't see it. His play bothers me much more often than not and frankly, I'm a tad concerned.
no way vince is traded unless you get a star that you think for sure will be better than vince in 2 years. Vince brings in too many fans and puts too many butts in the stands to trade him for anythign less than a sure thing.
All good points. Vince seems to be a great leader and is helping the kids to develop. If you just have a bunch of young players without any veteran leadership--and the right veteran leadership--they will stagnate and develop bad habits. We're not privy to alot of what happens, but from what i see, Vince is an integral part of the development of the kids into capable players. He's also at the height of his ability right now, from what i can see, when you take into account his passing, leadership, and overall team play. He's irreplaceable. Besides, even though he would be a few years older, if healthy, can anyone really say that he won't be just as effective in two or four years? A core of Devin, Vince, and a more-finished Brook . . . and add a key free agent like Bosh . . . wow. The Nets also don't need more cap space. Once Swift and Hassell come off the books, they'll have plenty of room. And then we can always hope that they can move Simmons.
he's also really, really good. He's attacking the basket like a force of nature. Seriously, is he the best in the league at putting some weird spin on the ball and getting those bizarre circus shots off the backboard to bank in?
The new constant attack offense that occasionally uses the dribble drive has gotten Vince to attack more than in the past. He doesn't hang out behind the three point line with Kidd anymore. Him and Devin are both attacking. He's also become a much better shooter from deep. Better shot selection. I think he can play at a high level for another 3 or 4 years. He won't stay the same high flyer of his youth, but he has really developed his bball IQ, his shooting, and his play making. Having made those adjustments will extend his career.
But You also have to look at it from a value standpoint. With the way he is playing this season, will he ever have more value than now. Look at RJ has his best season and gets traded. Could the same thing happen? I personally think we should keep him.
That's funny because I don't think he would. I think he likes what he's doing here. I think he would hate going to a team like Cleveland and have to give up his new leadership role to a player like Lebron, learn a whole new system that may not bring out his skills, and be just a role player.
