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  1. Mamba

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    Why doesn't Phil put Drew in during the final stretch? Jesus Christ Washington was grabbing every board and getting into the paint at will. Lamar bobbled an easy rebound that Drew would've secured, and it almost cost us. Phil needs to get over his ego and put in our defensive anchor. Phil leaves in the line up that blows big leads all the time and against Boston, that will kill us.

    I want to see Farmar, Kobe, Ariza, Gasol, and Drew to finish out games. No exceptions, no subs.
     
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    Drew was great today; Phil must have thought 35 minutes was enough for Drew and he wanted a fresh body in there I suppose. I understand completely why everyone is upset though.
     
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    Phil did this in Indy as well. He put in Lamar at the end, when Andrew should've been in there, and what happens? They get a layup attempt, an off. board, and the win.

    It's ridiculous.
     
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    Phil needs to get over his stubborn ego or we'll find ourselves at a disadvantage in the playoffs again if we reach the finals. Terrible coaching, it's been his flaw with the Lakers since he has been here. It is going to cost us some wins this year, again.
     
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    I really don't care about his coaching decisions right now. Let him make mistakes because I'd rather make them now than in the playoffs. I think Phil is really just trying to find a good lineup to close the game out, and that's gonna take some experimentation..

    As for Bynum sitting out...there is this thing called fatigue. Bynum isn't used to playing 35+ minutes per game. Regardless of how good he was, fatigue makes you less effective. If he's too tired to go, he's too tired to go. And if that's the case, I'd rather have Odom or someone else out there that has enough energy.
     
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    bynum at least was smart in his post game interview with NBA TV. Dude said all the right things about Phil not playing him at the end. But yeah if I'm a lakers fan I'd rather see Bynum on the floor over Odom at the end of the game any day of the week.........
     
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    He is a fucking 21 year old kid that is begging to be in the game at the end, fatigue is no factor with him. If that is the case, than Phil is still fucking up. He needs to manage Bynum's minutes better; so he can be on the floor at the end/

    And lol, you can not care about Phil making mistakes now, but I sure do. We all saw how important home court advantage was. That was the one thing Phil stressed coming into the season, no more experimenting and sacrificing wins to test something out. Phil stressed that he wanted the best record in the league, and so far he has blown one game...almost two.
     
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    When you have a 21 year old developing center, who has the potential to be a star in the league, you don't bench him in favor of Lamar Odom, who has been playing absolutely piss poor for like the past month. Every game, every minute counts. The more Phil benches Andrew in crucial minutes of the fourth, the less experience he'll get when the game is winding down. When it's all said and done, if we lose a couple of games this season because Bynum was playing in crucial minutes, I don't give a fuck. The more end of the game experience he gets, the more experienced he'll be when there's pressure, when the game is on the line. After all, we are depending on him to win the championship right? How is he going to do when he's thrown in the fire of a crucial NBA Finals game when the coach doesn't even let him experience the final minutes of a regular season game against the fucking Pacers. I mean, it's not like Lamar's been doing any better...

    The season is still young, and there's plenty of time for adjustments. Hopefully Phil makes his, because I'm starting to grow tired of his stubbornness. It cost us the championship last year because he refused to put any emphasis on defense.
     
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    This is all just a matter of finding out what works. Sometimes you have to find out what doesn't work before you can find out what works. This is why the season is 82 games. I'd rather be figuring this out right now and working out the kinks now as opposed to doing it 45 games in to the season or in the playoffs.

    As for Bynum, I'm aware he's a kid and that he wants to be out there, but we can't exhaust him. The more you play, the quicker your body could break down. I'd rather not be playing him 40mpg right now, that way he's not burned out come the end of the season and the playoffs when we may need him even more.
     
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    Finding out what works? Phil knows what works, and he refuses to use it because his fucking ego is too big. He came into the season with the mantra of not sacrificing wins to "find out what works", and so far, he refuses to give Bynum his proper place in the lineup.

    And again, Bynum's minutes being high require better coaching from Phil. It's simple, play him at the end of games. With all due respect, I don't think you've seen many Lakers' games this year as you live in Iowa, I think all you get is what is on national TV. Check every forum and ask any Lakers' fan that can catch every game; we need to play Bynum.
     
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    Oh Black Mamba...you sound like I did about Phil 3 years ago...let it go. When PJ said there was coaching problems he didnt mean it at all...it was mind games on the 2nd unit. Phil knows exactly what he is doing.
     
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    Does he? Phil isn't a perfect coach and he showed it last year in the Finals when he failed to make adjustments. His lack of emphasis defensively showed last year when we were mauled by the Celtics. Phil is a good coach, but isn't perfect. And just like the players, he also deserves blame when things are not going well.
     
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    Yeah, mind games. Those mind game cost us a chance against Boston last year. Phil is an overrated coach.
     
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    One argument that can be made is that Phil is benching Bynum to keep him hungry, so that he continues to work hard and not become complacent. He wants Bynum to continue working and improving his game, so benching him in the fourth may be a motivating technique? If Phil just listened to Bynum's request for more minutes, wouldn't that make him less hungry and increase his ego? He wants Bynum to continue playing hard and to continue focusing on defense. In recent games, Bynum has been scoring a lot more, but just like the rest of the team, his defense has been slipping...

    Again, I don't agree with the move, but maybe that's the "mind game" Phil is trying to play. Who knows. Phil is a crazy bastard.
     
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    Drew doesn't need motivation. Since he's come into the league he has completely turned his body around. He's bulked up, put in a shit load of work on his game, stuck with Kareem, done everything the Lakers asked him to do...he isn't Kwame, he doesn't need motivation. He got his pay day, and he is hungrier and than ever to win. He's called out the team twice this year and said that we need to play better; not many 21 year old's will do that.
     
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    Are you frickin serious??? We made the finals, we had no business being there last year!!! Phil also plays no mind games in the playoffs when it comes to substitution patterns...this is a regular season thing only. If you think Phil is overrated then he is 1C rather than 1A when it comes to him being compared to all time coaches. You are trippin.
     
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    ding ding ding!

    Bynum has plenty of time in his career (or even later this year) to play 40+ a game.
     
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    LOL WE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE !?!?

    Are you fuckin' serious? We had no fuckin' business being there? We fucking owned the West before Bynum went down, and after we got Gasol. We had every fucking right to be there, we fucking belonged there. Phil cost us the chance to win in the Finals with his incompetence of understanding defense and his stubbornness to try and make changes after Boston owned us. Phil is a genius, but he has been blessed with MJ and Scottie and Kobe and Shaq. You give a decent coach the teams that Phil has had, and they'd have 9 rings, as well.
     
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    No one wants him playing 40 MPG, he should be closing out games. Come with a legit rebuttal or stop posting idiotic shit.
     
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    :eek: Oh no, Mamba is pissed!

    *quickly flees before he takes out ax*
     

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