<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real Deal @ Feb 17 2006, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fine, and last year, the Lakers were 6th seed in the West until Kobe was injured, and then Odom was out for the year. You use excuses, then I'll do the same.And I watch every single Lakers game, 82 a year, so take your own advice.Pippen was a member of the NBA All-Defensive team from 1991-2000...with seven (count them up if you like) All-Defensive First teams. His defense was the main reason he was named one of the NBA's Greatest Players (50 Greatest). Explain that.Garnett lost in the first round every year he made the playoffs until two years ago. Is Garnett "nothing" to you? Sure, the Lakers will lose in the first round...because they'd have to play the Spurs, Mavs or Suns. 26 other teams would lose against those teams in a series, also (minus the Pistons). Nice analysis. Marbury has done nothing but prove that he ruins teams. Ask Minnesota, New Jersey and Phoenix...all the teams that have done incredibly well after trading Marbury...for some reason.</div>i never said scottie couldn't defend. i said he is not the greatest of all time. there is a difference. garnett finally had a good team last year with spree and cassell but mchale decided to break em up. the knicks can't win without starbury. read one of my earlier posts why. he does not ruin teams. he gets criticized the most in the league and doesn't deserve it. he was starting to get larry's system which is why they won 6 games to start 2006 then he got hurt. watch them win when he comes back and you'll look like an idiot guy.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 17 2006, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i never said scottie couldn't defend. i said he is not the greatest of all time.</div>And I'm telling you he is one of the greatest defenders of all time. He is fourth on the list (all-time) in steals, and shut down many players in his day. It's exactly why he was put on the 50 Greatest list. If you have a better explanation of why he was put on the list, go for it...otherwise, I'm right (as usual).<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 17 2006, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>there is a difference. garnett finally had a good team last year with spree and cassell but mchale decided to break em up.</div>Don't you expect MVP's to lead their team to victory regardless of their teammates? You're hinting to that in the other thread about Kobe Bryant.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 17 2006, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the knicks can't win without starbury. read one of my earlier posts why. he does not ruin teams. he gets criticized the most in the league and doesn't deserve it. he was starting to get larry's system which is why they won 6 games to start 2006 then he got hurt. watch them win when he comes back and you'll look like an idiot guy.</div>Same thing every year...how many more years do we have to hear that garbage? When he comes back? I thought he was back last season, when they lost 18 of 21? Last year he played a full season. The year before, he missed one game. In 2002-2003, he played 81 games, and the year before that, he played a full season. Explain why he still couldn't get the job done.The best PG in the leagues are Nash and Iverson. They don't have any problems getting it done. If Marbury thinks he's the best, he better own up to it, or he's going to get bashed by people who know he's full of BS...simple as that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real Deal @ Feb 17 2006, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Same thing every year...how many more years do we have to hear that garbage? When he comes back? I thought he was back last season, when they lost 18 of 21? Last year he played a full season. The year before, he missed one game. In 2002-2003, he played 81 games, and the year before that, he played a full season. Explain why he still couldn't get the job done.The best PG in the leagues are Nash and Iverson. They don't have any problems getting it done. If Marbury thinks he's the best, he better own up to it, or he's going to get bashed by people who know he's full of BS...simple as that.</div>haha i said this before the knicks were plagued by injuries all year. nash is a great pg i know that. i never said marbury was the best. just because you're from LA and know nothing about the knicks, don't say all this stuff about marbury and the knicks. you have no idea about what goes on here in ny. you didn't personally watch the knicks win 6 games in a row with marbury as the leader getting over 10 assists in all those game or at least most of them. then he got hurt and the whole team went down. he's the pg and the knicks don't have anyone else that plays pg. so that's why they struggled without marbury. a pg is the most important position. marbury is a warrior and until this season he hasn't missed a game in like 5 or 6 seasons.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 17 2006, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>haha i said this before the knicks were plagued by injuries all year. nash is a great pg i know that. i never said marbury was the best. just because you're from LA and know nothing about the knicks, don't say all this stuff about marbury and the knicks. you have no idea about what goes on here in ny. you didn't personally watch the knicks win 6 games in a row with marbury as the leader getting over 10 assists in all those game or at least most of them. then he got hurt and the whole team went down. he's the pg and the knicks don't have anyone else that plays pg. so that's why they struggled without marbury. a pg is the most important position. marbury is a warrior and until this season he hasn't missed a game in like 5 or 6 seasons.</div>I watch more basketball than you think. I coach it, I play it, I live it.For all you're saying about the Knicks losing their players, and Marbury going down...you should say the same about the Lakers, who are without Mihm now and were 4 or 5 games above .500 until Odom and Mihm started missing games.Last season, and I'll repeat it again, the Lakers were 6th seed until Kobe missed 14 games or so. He comes back, and then Odom goes down for the rest of the season. That means the Lakers lost their best player, then lost their rebounder and point-forward.Personally, I have never given excuses...we win, we lose, no excuses...but since you're throwing them out there for the Knicks, I suggest you acknowledge the problems that LA is having, and stop bashing the best player in the game and give credit where credit is due, for once.You know...if you were to track down all of my posts from all forums, you would never see me disrespecting any player until their fans slam Kobe. I've yet to say a thing about Marbury (ask Vintage), but hey...eye for an eye.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real Deal @ Feb 17 2006, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I watch more basketball than you think. I coach it, I play it, I live it.For all you're saying about the Knicks losing their players, and Marbury going down...you should say the same about the Lakers, who are without Mihm now and were 4 or 5 games above .500 until Odom and Mihm started missing games.Last season, and I'll repeat it again, the Lakers were 6th seed until Kobe missed 14 games or so. He comes back, and then Odom goes down for the rest of the season. That means the Lakers lost their best player, then lost their rebounder and point-forward.Personally, I have never given excuses...we win, we lose, no excuses...but since you're throwing them out there for the Knicks, I suggest you acknowledge the problems that LA is having, and stop bashing the best player in the game and give credit where credit is due, for once.You know...if you were to track down all of my posts from all forums, you would never see me disrespecting any player until their fans slam Kobe. I've yet to say a thing about Marbury (ask Vintage), but hey...eye for an eye.</div>aright then we both said what we wanted to say so let's just end this. i don't mean any dissrespect towards you or anyone else. i'm just stating my opinion.
