Grizzlies Sign Darius Miles

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  1. MrJayremmie

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    maybe a backup PF but not a Center, no. But the backup PF might already be taken care of also with a guy playing in Spain right now or through the draft.
     
  2. NattaNerNuttaMan

    NattaNerNuttaMan NattaNerNutta like Spike

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    yeah, your right....after seeing thier roster on your sig (thanks btw...lol) They do need a polished PG more than anything as well as wing defending SF in case Batum doesn't pan out...or even for position depth.

    I guess the Blazers and Grizz won't really be butting heads come free-agent time...I stand corrected. I guess they really don't have much of an alterior motive...just that thier asses or dumb...lol:ghoti:
     
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    I think if you are an up and coming team (which i believe the Grizzlies are) and you know that you have competition verse another team that is not only up and coming but a playoff ocntender now with better talent, and you know that for the next 10 years, they will probably only have this one year which they will have cap space before they lock up all their players, I could see a reason to try and take 9mil away from them.

    But that is just me.
     
  4. NattaNerNuttaMan

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    Yeah, that's pretty much the logic I have, and it only comes at the cost of $500,000 and a roster spot for at least 20 games. I guess thier intentions will be made clear after that timeframe. I just hope Miles realizes that he only has those 10 games after serving his 10 game suspension to prove something or there will be no further reason to keep him.
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

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    I think this may be the most plausible idea.

    Besides, if Darius can get back some of his "explosiveness" he could be a good player off the bench for them. I really doubt they're just trying to stick it to us.
     
  6. HOWIE

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    I've heard it's all about the life style which he loves so much. It's more impressive to say I play in the NBA than to say I played in the NBA. Status? I never got the impression that he loved playing the game, but maybe that is because of all the problems. :dunno:
     
  7. NattaNerNuttaMan

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    It all comes down to the desire to play and get better....it's crazy when a player comes in with serious potential and blows it all away because they just don't have that fire to constantly get better. It's a shame for him, cause the talet was there, he just never tapped it....sure someone can make the argument that he got hurt....but he wasn't even tapping his potential when he was healthy
     
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    Yeah, brother. He could have been really good.

    During his prime, he was pretty good, but this kid had so much potential. Hopefully he is working hard and can get back to playing respectable bball.

    He really did not look good during preaseason. The article said that he did look good, which was odd, because if you watched him, he wasn't good, and couldn't hold on to a roster spot.
     
  9. La Bomba

    La Bomba The Future

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    Why do people hate us? Just because we have a dumb ass GM who does favors for other teams? You guys should praise us because we're probably going to end up doing Mike Conley for a 2nd or something stupid like that. :lol:
     
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    Blazer_Hippie Batum getting ballsy!

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    I don't hate you guys....you should send Conley to us in Minnesota...lol...as a show of gratitude for sending you Mayo....:ghoti:....:sigh:
     
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    speculations by this board fueled by our who JQ hearts local press don't necessarily reflect reality at all. I think it's pretty humorous that many here are convinced that they know whats what with the character of individual players when the truth of the matter is they only have wild guesses that they've repeated ad nauseam in scapegoat threads. Rather then examining their precious Darius is a bad/lazy guy premise, posters are convinced it's all a big conspiracy :crazy:

    I'm fine with not really knowing a players character or workout regimen (or lack there of) and limiting my analysis to what I see on the court and hard evidence like medical reports on the state of his knee. Having seen DM play in the summer league, dude is a shell of his former self lacking the athletic explosiveness he started his career with. Without question he knows a vet trick or two to teach the youngins on Memphis, but so do a ton of ex-players who can no longer bring it on an NBA level. Unless there has been a dramatic change in the last couple months, dude is too slow to guard 3s and too small to guard 4s. Combine that with his 10 game suspension and it's quite likely he never hits the floor for them. Even if he did somehow play in 10 games, from my understanding the Blazers would still likely avoid having his dollars appear back on their cap as the league (for all intents and purposes) backed their conclusion that he's done. And even if on the outside chance that his contract ends up counting against Portland's cap, the Blazers could still easily clear 10+ mil in capspace this next offseason for a lopsided trade or UFA signing.

    This group fretting is truly much to do about nothing.

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  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Wow, I must have missed that. When did Darius have the No. 3 selling jersey in the world?


    This is the part I remember. Every team he played for couldn't wait to get rid of the guy. He was an insubordinate headcase. Yeah, Mo Cheeks wasn't a great coach, but he didn't deserve to be disrespected the way he was by Darius. He also butted heads with Paul Silas in Cleveland. So, has Darius Miles ever played for a coach that actually wanted him on the team? I wonder how long it will take for Miles to wear out his welcome in Memphis. I'm guessing about 21 games - 10 of them while he's serving his suspension.

    BNM
     
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    Eh, I'd say that is your own speculation there STOMP. I do have interaction outside this board and don't make it a practice to read Mr. Quick. Never the less speculate away my friend. :D
     
  15. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Darius was only including "immediate family members that I buy jerseys for". Maybe he meant "bought by World B. Free".

    The LAST time Darius mattered to anyone, he wasn't on the top 25.

    http://www.nba.com/news/jerseys_041209.html

    Also, why did it change from top 5, to top 3?

    And why is he reffered to as a "top 10" jersey as a Clipper, but dropped out of it (not even top 20) when he moved to Cleveland?

    It couldn't be that once he was out of the bandwagon central, people stopped giving a shit about him, could it?

    Darius simply ain't good enough to care if another team thinks he'll be anything more than a 15th man. And if his salary counts against the team next year? Im sure the team already has the papers drawn up to contest that. I don't think this is a big deal.
     
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    some of it is... like you, I labeled it as such too. Can't say the same for most of the others here who act like their speculations are fact. And while you and I may not read JQ on principle, it's a fact that his nonsense is the basis of many a chicken little thread here. It's my opinion that the chances of Darius effecting Portland's future personnel moves are still very slim for the reasons I laid out.

    btw, while I quoted your post it wasn't nearly as :NOTMARIS: a post as many others in this thread. Because you seem to be a generally good natured poster, I used it as a launching point for my rant rather then directly calling out those I was really taking issue with and risk having things devolve into a personal spat (if that makes any sense :) ). I don't want to get in a fight, I want my opinion considered.

    STOMP
     
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  17. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Hey, who knows maybe Darius really did get a raw deal from KP (blasphemy I know) and the league appointed doctor. If he really is fighting to come back for the love of the game and has matured then I say, "good for him."
     
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    Darius is not 50 years old, and he's in reasonably good shape, better than most on this board I would guess.

    He at least once had undeniable skills and talent, so given the right motivation and determination there is no reason to think he can't play again, and perhaps play very well.

    I applaud his effort and wish him success.
     
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    I wish him (and pretty much everyone) the best, but I think the multiple medical opinions on the state of his knee and play since are very good reasons to think he'll never be anything like what he was. While he has some skills, it's not like the guy was a dead eye shooter or phenomenal passer. Being a long 6'8 athlete was his main positive.

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    :cheers:

    Pure speculation on my part here, but apology accepted. :D

    As far as Miles work ethic, outside of what has been posted here, printed by Mr. Quick, or ranted about on the internet. Darius Miles does not have good work ethic and again from my interations outside message boards I to highly doubt that Memphis is going to keep him long term. My first tought was that signing him was to put pressure on Pritchard to wheel & deal, but maybe Wallace is just cray enough to think that he knows more than the Clippers, Cavs, Blazers, & Celtic's. Miles is not the type of player you want on a team building for the future, he made more sense signing with Boston than Memphis, but that is just specualtion again on my part. We should know more next month just how serious Wallace is about Miles, my guess is Miles won't work out.
     
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