Going to have to go with my man Rod Thorn. If you look at our starting 5, he has got all 5 of them as steals. LookG-Kidd= Got him for Marbury straight up. Anyone would take Kidd of The cancer.SG-Carter=Aron and eric williams, zo and two 1st round picks.Steal for us.SF-Jefferson=Eddie Griffen, a drug addict.PF-Jason Collins=Inculded in the trade with jefferson.C-Kristic=Picked late 1st round and Rod allowed him 2 have 2 devoloping years.
You have to put Joe Dumars in there. I mean assembling a team of no bodies and to have them become the best team in the league, wow!
No doubt Joe DumarsPG-Billups. He signed him and gave him a chance, look where he is nowSG-Hamilton. Traded for Stack with some other fillers. Huge steal, Stack started to age and is now a good backup. Hamilton is an All-StarSF-Prince. Picked 23rd in the 03 draft. He found great talent this late in the draft, and now Tay is one of the best defenders in the league, and can shut down the LBJ's and the Dwades. He can also create some great O, inside and out.C-Ben. I have to go to Ben before I go to Sheed. Joe got him for the great Grant Hill who is always injured, and also got Chucky Atkins in the deal. PF-Sheed. The Trade with Atlanta, Boston, and the Pistons proved to be a steal for Joey D. Chucky and Zeljiko Rebraca were sent out, and Detroit got Sheed and Mike James.He also got:Mehmet OkurLindsey Hunter for Micheal CurryAntonio McDyess<strike>Darko</strike>, his one mistakeCarlos Arroyo for Elden Campbell and a pick. We get Campbell back.Mo EvansAnd much more.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Feb 16 2006, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have to put Joe Dumars in there. I mean assembling a team of no bodies and to have them become the best team in the league, wow!</div>no bodies?Rip Hamilton was averaging 20 ppg before DetroitRasheed was already a great player in Portland.Tayshaun was tearing it up in Kentucky.Antonio McDyess was already great, and was a huge risk.Billups was moved around, but he certainly wasn't a nobodyI'll give you Ben though, as a nobody.
Lol, yea Darko was a huge mistake. But I can't be to hard on him, I didn't know Darko was going to be such a bust. I still would have picked Melo over him though, Melo won the NCAA championship and I knew more about Melo than I did Darko. The sad thing is that during their rookie season, they interviewed Dumars during a game and they asked him if he was upset with picking Darko instead of Melo and he said something about not being upset and how they are happy with the pick. I wonder what they think now :g: (I love these smilies!)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Feb 16 2006, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lol, yea Darko was a huge mistake. But I can't be to hard on him, I didn't know Darko was going to be such a bust. I still would have picked Melo over him though, Melo won the NCAA championship and I knew more about Melo than I did Darko. The sad thing is that during their rookie season, they interviewed Dumars during a game and they asked him if he was upset with picking Darko instead of Melo and he said something about not being upset and how they are happy with the pick. I wonder what they think now :g: (I love these smilies!)</div>Newsflash- he is only 21 years old.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Feb 16 2006, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Newsflash- he is only 21 years old.</div>Yea I know he is young, but who would you rather have, Melo or Darko?
Donnie Nelson, underrated. Traded for Dirk in the draft, with Tractor Traylor going the other way. Trades for Nash, Finley. Formed the Big Three.Drafting has been great, when we have a pick, or don't. Stealing Josh Howard at 29. Then picking up undrafted free agent Marquis Daniels. Following draft, drafting Devin Harris at 5, Pavel Podkolzin at 24(I mention this for the fact it's a low risk reward) And 7'5 guys with offensive skills don't grow on trees. Also, picking up Benga, Josh Powell, Rawle Marshall, guys who look like good NBA players.(Not starters, but role players)Can't forget about Diop either. In addition, trades seem to be one-sided in favor of Mavs, eg. Van Horn for Booth.Edited: BCB your gripe with Darko is almost as worse as Melo's Kobe fever.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yea I know he is young, but who would you rather have, Melo or Darko?</div>Detroit needs neither. In fact, I think Melo would mess up the chemistry the Pistons have. Bosh is the better pick. But there's no time machine, so who cares.
Joe Dumars, RC Buford, Jerry West, Donnie Nelson are all great. But i think Billy King should be thrown into the mix. If you look at Philly's line-up, they don't really have any holes. all they need is a big man off the bench (they somewhat have that in Hunter, but they could do better), and some motivation to play defense and as a team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Feb 16 2006, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Joe Dumars, RC Buford, Jerry West, Donnie Nelson are all great. But i think Billy King should be thrown into the mix. If you look at Philly's line-up, they don't really have any holes. all they need is a big man off the bench (they somewhat have that in Hunter, but they could do better), and some motivation to play defense and as a team.</div>I agree with your list wholeheartedly... until Billy King was throw into the mix. Billy King is a decent GM, nothing special. He has made some moves, but the majority of the good moves were not his idea, they were Tony DiLeo's idea (our assistant GM/head of player personnel). Dalembert was drafted by Larry Brown, and DiLeo played a major part in acquiring Willie Green and Korver on draft night, drafting Iguodala (who could go wrong there), and the Webber trade. Philly also needs a lot more help then what you said... there are tons of things wrong with this team, and I don't have the time nor the energy to list them all. The bench is horrible as well.
Im gonna throw a name out there, Pat Riley. He has traded two over paid players in two years (Eddie Jones and Brian Grant) both making 14 million a year. And did get Alonzo Mourning in the early 90's and Shaq recently via trades. He knows a thing or two about managing a franchise.
No mention of Elgin Baylor?Hes my pick for GM of the year. He added a bunch of key guys and turned the Clippers into a playoff team for the first time in forever. He picked a good draft pick with Daniel Ewing,He added depth on the team by adding Howard Eisley, and Walter McCarty even though there not there anymore :/But without a doubt his best move was bringing in Sam Cassell and CutinoMobley. Cassell is the veteran leader that team desperatly needed. He is putting up great stats to go along with his leadership. Hes shattering his last season numbers.Alot of people criticized Baylor for bringing in Cutino Mobley. They didnt think he would fit in with the Clippers. Man were they DEAD wrong. He has been an awesome addition. Hes getting the best assist and rebounding numbers of his career. For the first time ever he looks to pass. I dont feel any GM did as good as job as Elgin Baylor. He made the moves despite what the media said and its paying off, The Clippers are at the top of the Pacific Division.
I agree he's done a good job, but one sentence was terrible:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He picked a good draft pick with Daniel Ewing,He added depth on the team by adding Howard Eisley, and Walter McCarty even though there not there anymore :/</div>Daniel Ewing is not a good draft pick, he's a third string pg. And I say overrated at Duke. But yea when you said they added McCarthy and Eisley(whose gone) for depth, I laughed. Those moves aren't worthy of best gm. Eisley got cut, and McCarthy is doing nothing. You should have mentioned guys like Ross, Singleton who are contributing. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Clippers are at the top of the Pacific Division.</div>No their not.P.S. Cassell is a free agent. I look at him moving on.
Ewing will be a stud. Just wait.I didnt mean the Clippers are leading there division I said they are at the top.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Ewing will be a stud. Just wait.</div>Playing over Livingston?
I really think Joe Dumars is good. He doesnt settle for mediocre trades and he was the one that formed their starting lineup. Maybe people will doubt the Darko situation but if they had Carmelo then their team would have way to many scoring options anyway. It is good how it is now and I think he is the best.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (drake24 @ Feb 16 2006, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea I know he is young, but who would you rather have, Melo or Darko?</div>But he is still young, he still can grow, and you can't label him as "a huge mistake" right now.
