Im gonna have to go Thorn here, dont forget, hes the man who drafted MJ..I think the RJ trade was great, robbed VC from Toronto and swapped Marbury for Kidd..He also elected not to resign Kenyon to that massive contract and instead got draft picks in return and the ability to resign RJ and acquire Vince. He drafted Krstic who has turned out to be an excellent young player (he was projected to go top 5 the following year had he not come out when he did), and he got what many people around the league thought was one of the steals of the draft in Antoine Wright who recently has shown some potential in the time he has earnedMarbury < KiddGriffin < RJ, Collins (Brandon Armstrong was also included)K-Mart < Vince, ability to resign RJZo, Eric Williams, Aaron Williams < Vince Carter
Really good points you make there hoopskidd, Thorn is one of the better GM's...Did he sign Jim McIlvaine?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Feb 18 2006, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really good points you make there hoopskidd, Thorn is one of the better GM's...Did he sign Jim McIlvaine?</div>Haha, every GM messes up at some point..Dumars drafted Darko and he hasnt done anything for them (not saying he wont succeed in Orlando, but he was obviously a failure in Detroit regardless of the situation he was placed in)...He is still a great GM because of the other moves he has made in building that starting 5, and the same goes for Thorn..
Bryan Colangelo. He's the reason we have been good the last two years. He brought in Nash and brought some great players to put around him(and ones that could excel in D'Antoni's system, yes system) and made awesome trades. He wasn't good at the start but he was young. He has really turned into a great GM.Too bad our new loser UgAy alum GM, Sarver, doesen't like him and is allowing the Raptors to have talks with him about their open GM spot. Sarver wants the other stupid UA alum, Steve Kerr to take over the job. I really hope it doesen't happen. Colangelo's always have to have a place in Arizona sports.
Colangelo has been pretty unrecognized by the media. They dont recognize the savvy moves he's done with aqquiring Boris Diaw, James Jones, and Eddie House because he knew they would be come solid role players with Nash on this team. He knows how this team functions and he knows which kinds of pieces to get.
I'm not sure which is the best, but I sure do know who is the worst. Either Mitch Kupchak (Los Angeles Lakers) or Rob Babcock (Toronto Raptors).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sid Vicious @ Feb 20 2006, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure which is the best, but I sure do know who is the worst. Either Mitch Kupchak (Los Angeles Lakers) or Rob Babcock (Toronto Raptors).</div>I'd take either one of those guys over Isiah. They've got the worst record in the league and they're in the depths of salary cap hell. I mean, this guy gave Jerome freakin James a big contract when he already had a soft, poor rebounding center in Curry. The Knicks have the highest payroll in the NBA and if I remember correctly, they traded away all their first round picks over the next two years. They are royally screwed for at least three years. And now I hear the Knicks are interested in Darius Miles... Sure, that's what they need, another small forward... Yet, they're still going for Francis. Kupchack and Babcock are terrible GM's, as is Kevin McHale, but it just never ends with Isiah. He was a terrible coach and he's an even worse GM.Best GM? IMO, it's a toss up between guys like Geoff Petrie, Donnie Nelson, Larry Bird, Joe Dumars, and RC Buford. Jerry West was a truly great GM once upon a time, but I think he's lost his touch. And of course, Petrie totally screwed the pooch this season, but I'm hesitant to say it's his fault Sacramento has done so poorly, because I think he was under tremendous pressure from the Maloofs to make a move just for the sake of making one. But hell, I guess everyone has a miss, and I think he's redeemed himself a bit since bringing in Artest.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Haha, every GM messes up at some point..Dumars drafted Darko and he hasnt done anything for them (not saying he wont succeed in Orlando, but he was obviously a failure in Detroit regardless of the situation he was placed in)...He is still a great GM because of the other moves he has made in building that starting 5, and the same goes for Thorn..</div> Why he gave him $40 million when he averaged 2.7/3 a game baffles me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ArizonaFan @ Feb 19 2006, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bryan Colangelo. He's the reason we have been good the last two years. He brought in Nash and brought some great players to put around him(and ones that could excel in D'Antoni's system, yes system) and made awesome trades. He wasn't good at the start but he was young. He has really turned into a great GM.Too bad our new loser UgAy alum GM, Sarver, doesen't like him and is allowing the Raptors to have talks with him about their open GM spot. Sarver wants the other stupid UA alum, Steve Kerr to take over the job. I really hope it doesen't happen. Colangelo's always have to have a place in Arizona sports.</div>THANK YOU!Colangelo, IMO, is by far the best (and most underrated) GM in the game
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Feb 21 2006, 04:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whoever that Lakers GM is lol I dont know his name. Jerry Bus I think....</div>Buss owns the Lakers. Kupchak is the Lakres GM.
The Spurs GM probably, the Spurs spotted the international trend early and it payed off for them, they have a great scouting dpeartment and they make solid picks and FA decisions.
Wait- what has Kupchack done?Jerry West (another name who should be added to this thread) built that Laker dynasty, Kupchack has accomplished nada.Also- Don Nelson has done a good job as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Feb 21 2006, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whoever that Lakers GM is lol I dont know his name. Jerry Bus I think....</div>You a laker fan? don't think so...
Yeah all Kupchak did was get rid of Shaq and bring in Brian Grant who is gone, Caron Butler who is gone as well and Lamar Odom who is a decent shooter/good ballhandler/good rebounder but he is not offective in the Lakers offense. I think the Lakers have to do something to get more scoring options but Kupchak han't done anything at all so until he gains some balls and helps the lakers out then I wouldn't count him as a good GM. he turned a championship team into a barely playoff team which is definately not good.
I like Suns GM (Colangelo?) has done to their franchise. They dealt JJ for future Hawk picks (which means lottery, although not sure if they are protected or not), and Boris Diaw who's averaging insane all around numbers: 12.1 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 5.8 apg. Then he also got House, Bell who have become very good three point shooters in the system, perfectly complementing the Steve Nash-led offense. Don't forget Kurt Thomas and they're atop of their division, pretty amazing feat, I'd say.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (M*gic @ Feb 22 2006, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Suns GM (Colangelo?) has done to their franchise. They dealt JJ for future Hawk picks (which means lottery, although not sure if they are protected or not), and Boris Diaw who's averaging insane all around numbers: 12.1 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 5.8 apg. Then he also got House, Bell who have become very good three point shooters in the system, perfectly complementing the Steve Nash-led offense. Don't forget Kurt Thomas and they're atop of their division, pretty amazing feat, I'd say. </div>Yup been in PHX for 10 years now- and has done an amazing job.Great scouting skills with draft picks like Amare, Marion, Nash (drafted him, traded him for a pick which ended up being Marion, got him back), FinleyAnd has a solid trade/coaching changes history
