Grizzlies Sign Darius Miles

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Ah, I didn't realize the rules for exceptions worked like that. In any case I still think the team has a fair amount of wiggle room, and if they are really all that desperate for a backup power forward to replace Ike and/or Channing (Travis too I guess) you have to wonder if Freeland would be suitable or a banger picked up in the draft? Whatever happens it seems like a choice between good and better cap flexibility, not bad or good.
     
  2. STOMP

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    when did I start agreeing with you on this? It's pretty amazing that you'd think your thoughts represent everyone else's.

    STOMP
     
  3. noknobs

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    God some of you take everything a tad too literal. "The vast majority of fans and media." There, that better? Did I offend any sensitive souls with that?

    So STOMP, why do you think he's misunderstood? Why did the world at large conspire against him?
     
  4. BBert

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    I'm not too worried about the Miles "situation." For one I seriously doubt he can play NBA basketball for 10 games, particularly after practicing hard during the preceding 10-game stretch. I also doubt the Griz are trying to screw us. I know I wouldn't screw with one of the richest men in the world. And the Memphis people should really not try to outwit KP. :crazy:

    Regardless, I hope that instead of jockeying for max cap space and hoping to sign a free agent, KP is able to use Raef's contract and some spare parts to get a "difference maker" or big time player on the team before the trade deadline.

    Even if the Blazers end up letting Raef expire and stand pat with the team, I think this team will develop nicely. Don't forget, we still have Freeland and Kopo in the pipeline. :ghoti:
     
  5. Erroneous Subterfuge

    Erroneous Subterfuge meh

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    Miles is not misunderstood. Some people like to act all PC and objective about stuff like this. But I bet these same people wouldn't want Miles back on the team, even if healthy, and that's more telling than anything they might argue to the contrary.
     
  6. Ed O

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    Maybe you don't know what a "semblance" of something means. It means, so you know, something like the original, but not the same. An outward appearance.

    By saying he has a "semblance of motivation", you are saying that he lacks actual motivation.

    If you keep claiming that I fail to read your posts, at least please use words that mean what you seem to think they mean.

    Ed O.
     
  7. noknobs

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    Are you really this anal in person, or just over the internet? I bet you're a hoot at parties. Do you have nothing else to add, other than pick apart the phrases I use? My meaning is that while he's not a motivated individual, he's showing some temporarily at the moment as he comes back from injury. So it's a semblance of 'real' motivation. I don't believe it's a permanent fixture of his personality. If that doesn't make sense to someone like you, I can live with it.

    Maybe you could enlighten me as to why you'd want Miles back on the team? Since you seem to think he's motivated, reborn, or whatever. No problems, no baggage. The media just made it all up, right? Luckily you're here to set things straight.
     
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    You sound a bit sensitive and defensive yourself. ;) I don't think people object to "everyone agrees with me" comments due to being overly literal, but because it's a silly and annoying tactic to try to claim the unspoken support of the community at large. Either you can defend your position or you can't...reducing it (implicitly) to "Well, I'm probably right because everyone agrees with me and not with you" is poor debate/discussion form.
     
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    Oh, you're so right... Why bring up the fact that most media, NBA personnel, and knowledgable NBA fans share my viewpoint... It's completely irrelevant... :biglaugh: It must be some sort of mass hysteria and should be dismissed accordingly. No lets instead focus on the definition of 'semblance' - that's much better debate/discussion form.
     
  10. maxiep

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    So, has he been signed or not?
     
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    It is, because anyone can claim "everyone agrees with me." Would you care to prove that the majority believe as you do? Of course not, since it's impossible. You just assume they all do.
     
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    Twice you asked if I had read your post. That's insulting to me. Of course I read a post before I responded to it.

    The first time I explained why I disregarded what you said.

    The second time I pointed out that you should be more careful with your language if you want to criticize people for not understanding what you said. It's YOUR fault that you're not being clear... so stop asking if I read your posts.

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    Pretty ticky tacky. Most generalizations do exist because they have basis in fact. While this may not be one of them, the "Vast Majority" of generalizations are indeed true, even if it is in bad taste.
     
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    When it comes to perceptions, I think it's pretty questionable that the "vast majority" of generalized claims are true, because bias makes a huge difference in how one perceives the majority opinion. When one, personally, believes something strongly, one sees agreeing opinions as validation and dismisses other opinions as contrarian or unrepresentative or whatever else. This is a pretty standard dynamic.
     
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    i either want kobe or just re-sign roy and aldridge
     
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    Bad time for the Lakers to become really good. If the Lakers were crap, there may have been a shot of KP poaching him away from LA.
     
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    It's always a bad time for the Lakers to be good. :grin:
     
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    Despite some of you feeling the need to defend Miles, none of you has come forward and said why you'd want him on our team if he was healthy. Even when I directly asked you. What does that say?

    So far the only specific arguement supporting Miles is that he's trying to make a comeback... Wow, an athlete who still wants to play basketball for a living. Gee, he must possess rare and exception motivation to want to play in the NBA... It must also mean he's always been extremely motivated, that's the only possible explanation... An entire career that screams the exact opposite must be wrong.

    As for you, the only argument I'm seeing is why my argument isn't the proper way to argue, and that the only reason I think the vast majority of people have a similar view of Miles is due to my own personal bias... You have got to be kidding me. Especially since you don't even have an argument yourself. It's almost like you don't want to agree with me solely because that will just 'validate' my argument and feed into my bias... Miles has been debated ad nauseam, and his numerous mis-steps can be found quite easily. I just didn't feel compelled to give yet another recount in this thread. If you are sufficiently 'motivated', feel free to look them up.

    Other than that, I'm still waiting to hear what exactly it is you, STOMP, and Ed_O are arguing... Do you think Miles is misunderstood? Why? Do you think his checkered past is fabricated by the media? Is he now a guy you want on the team? Or are you simply trying to find holes in my argument because you don't know what else to do? You said "you can either defend your position or you can't." Well then, defend your own.
     
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    If Miles was completely healthy- he'd be better than anyone we have at the 3 spot- great athleticism, scoring ability and decent D with POTENTIAL to be an all star. I'd want him on the team.

    As is, I don't want him on anyone's team this season because it hurts portland's cap space.
     

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