Saying Rubio is "3x the prospect" that Rudy is makes it a subjective opinion and not objectively "true". Adding he's the best PG prospect since Magic makes it hilarious. Do you even know what subjective means?
You should take an economics course. $7MM is peanuts. He could make way more than that in his first year if he was in a media market like New York. Or he could wait until 2011 and end up on a team like Milwaukee where he won't get many endorsements and be in the first year of a rookie contract waiting a long time in the cold weather waiting for free agency. If he waits until 2011, he's going to be praying that he ends up on a team like the Clippers where he'd have a good Spanish fan base. Let's put it this way.. He can stay overseas, wait until 2011 and in that time frame make maybe $1 or $2 million Euros. Or he can pay the $7MM, come to America, be playing in his contract year in 2011 by which point he could potentially have made $30 or so million in endorsements. Which is obviously the better option?
Um, Paul and D.Will? I wouldn't trade either of them for Ruby, he hasn't proven much yet. Yes, I know young guys don't get the playing time in the euroleague. I wouldn't pick him in the top 5 this year or next based upon what he has shown... (not to mention buyout issues). About what? Rodriguez is one of the worst defenders at pg in the NBA, as far as I have seen. And his offense doesn't begin to make up for that.
That's a silly comparison. Magic was a PF with otherworldly passing and dribbling skills. Could Rubio start at center and score 40 points in his rookie year? I think not. I like Rubio a lot, though. If we had the #1 pick and he came out this draft, I would be more than happy to have us take him. But he's more Jason Kidd than Magic Johnson. Only skinny. Watching him in the Olympics, the current player he most reminds me of is Rajon Rondo for the havoc he wreaks by playing the passing lanes. He's taller, but less athletic. He's a very good passer, but Rondo is very underrated in that respect. Go with Jason Kidd. (Who went #2, ahead of Grant Hill, remember, and also couldn't shoot.) It's safer (and less silly) than Magic.
Yeah, Rubio is a MUCH better prospect than either of those two were when they were drafted. Was Rubio 16 when they were drafted? If rules allowed it he would have been drafted ahead of them in that draft. Paul was drafted after three teams passed on him, DWill even later. Rubio is going first in pretty much any draft he's in, period. Rubio is 6'5 with unparalleled vision and handles. That's not the point when comparing prospects. The point is to compare them at the time they were drafted. CP3 and DWill have reached their potential, they are established NBA stars. They were not drafted that way, there were drafted as prospects. Big difference, and an important difference. *edited: No ethnic slurs* I would have hoped Portland's foreign fan base would have increased by now, or at the very least Portland fans would have learned a little bit about ball outside the US. Instead all I see is the same ignorant cliched bullshit. Okay, so you're admitting you don't know anything about the draft. Thank you for staying away from the Blazers front office. Have you seen Blake or Nash play defense at PG? Sergio is no worse than either of them. Sergio still needs to work on his offense, but when he's in the game the rest of the teams offense is better. Too bad some people are overly concerned with scoring from their PG's, especially their young ones. You were probably on the trade O'Neal bandwagon as well.
He'd likely make way more than that with endorsements alone. Then he'd have his measly $4MM+ rookie salary as well.
Can someone please explain to me how to block posters? I have never done it before cause I never felt the need but *someone here* has made it impossible to read anything. I tried clicking on their name and going to their profile but it I didn't see anything there. EDIT: Never mind, figured it out.
Magic was not a PF, he was a PG prospect and nothing else. Nobody was looking at drafting their future PF. So let me correct you, "Magic was a PG with otherworldly passing and dribbling skills." Now you're correct and yes I'd say that describes both Magic and Rubio as prospects perfectly. Was he drafted to? No, he was drafted to be a PG, which is where he played his entire career. Magic played center in one game because of a plethora of injuries. So if the same thing happened to Portland I suppose he could, but that's not what you judge them by as a prospect. He's nothing like Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd was a defensive player with great court vision. He was never good on offense and never really showed any potential in that area either. Rubio has been very good offensively and projects to improve in that area tremendously. But at 18 Rubio is already better offensively than Kidd was in his prime. Rubio also has length, Kidd is kind of stumpy.
I'll care when the comment comes from Bayless directly, or a named member of the organization. And even then, not very much. Almost any talented, competitive player would be frustrated about being buried. Competitive spirit manifests itself in all ways...not just for the team, but for the individual too. As long as he's playing his best, I'm fine with him. I certainly hope that minutes are found for him. He's one of the two or three most talented guards on the team. Trading him would be silly, since Portland couldn't hope to recoup his talent, and I am relatively sure that Pritchard has no plans at all to trade him.
You know you just said a bunch of shit that isn't true. First of all, you don't know what I do or do not know about basketball. You have no idea who I am, how much hoops I watch, how much international hoops I watch, and even if you did know all of those things, you don't know what I am thinking until I tell you what I am thinking. You didin't argue with people like me about Rudy, because I never argued with anybody about Rudy, because I thought Rudy would turn out pretty good. I still don't know what level he will turn out to be. He has a long ways to go. Secondly, are you done tooting your own horn yet? You talk a lot about being right about his or that. I just joined this message board a couple of months ago. I wasn't even here when people were talking about that stuff. I don't know what you did or did not say. So go ahead and say you were right. Right about what? Right about expressing your opinion? I believe plenty of people will still disagree with you as to what Sergio, and Batum, are, and how good they are, and I am sure plenty of people disagree if you are supposedly right. You may think Sergio is great. I am sure a lot of folks here wish he would not stink it up.
I don't give a rip if our PG scores during the game at all. Well.... I would like him to be deadly at the foul line "BLAKE". That said the PG's job is to get the offense running and get the ball to the weapons that can score. Assists and defense win games and that's what I want at that position. The next great PG very well may be from the Euro leagues, here's why: The Euro league players know how to pass and work with and without the ball to get into the right position to be most effective, THAT'S SPOT ON!!!! The foundations of their basketball IQ is solid. I'd say much higher than the NBA. They are thinking players. The NBA players are all about gifted physical talent, size, and speed. That often can outweigh high basketball IQ as we saw in the Olympics. Yet let's understand who won us the Gold! Kobe and Paul, both of these guys have a healthy dose of talent and very high hoops IQs. I think we can all agree on this. The Kobe of 10 years ago might not have won us the gold. It took time for Kobe to learn the mental of what it takes to be a Hall of Fame player. The same is true of Paul and he will get even better with time. To much showboating and not enough hoops academics has been the knock on the US players. As it should!!!! Our players really need to go back to school and learn so their minds can catch up with their bodies. When that's been achieved the Euro's wont be such an impact as your seeing today.
