What constitutes being a "Fan"? A Jerry McGuire Moment........

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  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I love coming on here and seeing what everybody thinks about the world of Blazer basketball. I joined up with you guys in June of 05. But I will be honest with you guys, this whole experience is starting to lose its luster! I consider myself a Blazer fan. Live and die by the Blazers growing up listening to Shonz, going to games with my parents at the Parmount watching them on the big screen and collecting cards inside of WonderBread bags. I consider myself quite knowledgeable when it comes to hoops. That said, the way that some of you guys act on here is ridiculous! If we win a game or two, we are heading to the finals!!!! If we lose a couple, trade so-in-so and fire Nate?!?!?!?!?!? On the bandwagon, off the bandwagon!!! It is crazy. Now I understand that everybody has a right to voice their opinion, but how can you truly all yourself a "fan", when you react the way you do on either side of the spectrum? Maybe because of my job and the position I'm in, I have a different perspective then most. Maybe I'm a little more forgiving because I know these guys personally, but even before I was in this spot, I wasn't so drastically up and down on these guys like most. Also, it seems like a lot of people around here have forgotten that we are the youngest team in the league ( Raef does not count!). I've said this before a couple times, but we are going to lose games we shouldn't and win games we have no reason winning. Step back and enjoy the position we are in as the brightest up and coming team in the NBA. If you took the time to read this long drawn out post holiday mission statement, I thank you. My one wish is we all be a little more realistic when it comes to our expectations of this squad. Go Blazers!
     
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  2. Paxil

    Paxil Active Member

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    I think the majority of the posters here are fine. The minority appears bigger than it is because they will post 5 threads after a loss getting out their frustrations... which are misplaced on this and that when in reality they just want the team to win and have a hard time accepting any loss.
     
  3. timmay

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    Bingo.

    Also, a lot of posters who stay on a pretty even keel don't have any interest in posting in knee-jerk threads. You do it for a little bit, then get tired of the same knee-jerk reactions. So you just don't post while everyone is in freak-out mode. Or championship mode.
     
  4. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    You're welcome, HCP. :grin:

    And thank you. :cheers:
     
  5. BatumKaboom

    BatumKaboom Suspended

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    Good post. I feel ya. I am one of those fans. But I blame it on bi-polor disorder and micro brews.
     
  6. BlazersBlood

    BlazersBlood It's flowing within me.

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    Yup, it's only the minority of posters that go off after a win or a loss. And don't forget, some posters only post after a win, and others after a loss, so it seems like you get both extremes after each game.

    I admit, I've overreacted on more than one occasion, but it's a long season and you have to take each game in stride and look at the big picture. The entire season could change for any team at any instant. Injury, a miracle bucket, an amazing play, they all can change the course for any team. The veteran teams cope the best with these because they've ridden the roller coaster many times and they don't get too high, and they don't get too low. Our guys are tasting success for the first time in their NBA careers, and that's a challenge just as big as losing. We aren't going to be sneaking up on anybody anymore, and every team is going to bring their "A" game, and we just aren't consistent enough to handle that right now. It's frustrating seeing the same weaknesses get exposed, but most of it is just mental toughness. We are still shaping the identity of the team and if people expect that to take place over night, or just one season, they're going to be disappointed.
     
  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    This post sounds a lot like what I said. Has anyone here actually seen me or HCP at the same time?
     
  8. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    Well said HCP. Thank you.

    Gramps...
     
  9. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I just saw yours J, sorry brother , wasn't trying to steal your idea.
     
  10. bodyman5001

    bodyman5001 Genius

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    It might just be that it is aggravating that we have another terrible coach in a long line of terrible coaches.

    Every time this comes up I ask people to name a couple of times when McMillan did something brilliant that someone could say directly contributed to a victory. Nobody has come up with one yet. Instead, I get things like how good the team is out of timeouts. WHOOPTY DO.

    The team has no direction and no discipline. I thought Sarge was supposed to be a steady leader. Instead he starts off the season with a wishy washy move to bench Batum out of the blue and now we have stuff like Frye is gonna play, now Ike, now Frye, maybe Bayless, no Bayless has two fouls he can't ever play again, Oden has four fouls so he can't play again, blah blah fucking blah.

    Nope, we have a coach who looks like he just walked out to the parking lot and found out that his car got stolen. Generally, a bewildered look that only looks better in comparison to Cheeks having his face in his hand the whole game.
     
  11. dpc

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    I don't even come on here after a loss. I know it will just be a bunch of bitching. And it's only a few people, but they ruin it for me. So I don't even come on here after a loss because then all of a sudden our team sucks ass and we should fire every person that is on the staff. Hell I bet if the presentation is barely off people will be asking for HCP's head.
     
  12. Tortimer

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    HCP that is a great post and my feeling exactly. I haven't been on as much as normal because of not wanting to read the downer posts after losses. I think there is a place for constructive criticism and there are things that need to get fixed and some will be fixed I believe with letting the cake bake. I also think we have a great chance to improve our team with a trade with LaFrenz's contract and available cap space. I do think most of the posters are fairly leveled headed and it only takes a 2-3 and everything goes down hill. I'm super happy with the team especially with how bad our team was looking before the Roy and LMA draft.
     
  13. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    So let the cake bake, or make trades and additions?

    You can't really do both.

    Ed O.
     
  14. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Trade the cake!
     
  15. Tortimer

    Tortimer Well-Known Member

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    I think we can have both. I think we basically let the cake bake but use LaFrenz's contract and maybe one of our young players to get a upgrade at SF, PG or backup banger PF at the trade deadline or next summer if we still have cap space(Miles signing etc.). I would think we would leave all the main ingredients to the cake in place Roy, LMA, Oden, Rudy, Bayless, Blake, Batum, Joel and at least one or both Webster/Outlaw.
     
  16. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Thanks for the post HCP. Just remember: Illegitimus non carborundum est
     
  17. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    What's with the extreme exaggeration?

    After a loss, there are very few posters who say "Fire the entire coaching staff! Trade everybody!" What will you hear? The people who say "Trade Blake, Travis, and Frye (and Sergio, depending on the game)" and "Nate's coaching poorly" correctly (if juvenile-ly) saying "I told you so". The people who take crap in the form of "Travis Outlaw Fan Club Thread" and "Free Bayless/Sergio sucks" threads after wins or during "good" game threads are justified a bit. The opposite happens after a win. Those of the optimistic bent generally like to gloat that their projections were correct, and seem to exaggerate a bit.

    Posting extreme exaggerations doesn't help. It's a poor debating form and just begs for adolescent, testosterone-driven poor behavior. How about just saying things like "Brian, you keep saying we should trade Travis. Don't you think he played well tonight?" Or, "Brian, what did you think about Sergio's two dumb fouls?" Or, "Would you like to change your 58-win prediction after seeing this team's first 30 games?"

    It's be a lot better forum, IMHO.

    Oh yeah, and there's something differing in my version of "let the cake bake" than most in here. If you believe that, and think our window is the 3-4 year instead of this year, then why are Blake, Joel and Travis playing? Shouldn't we be letting those ingredients that will be in the 2012 cake play? If you don't see Sergio as part of our future, why is he here? Or are you hoping that you can just follow the team, overlooking faults and praising good play all in the spirit of "youth mistakes"?
     
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  18. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Sorry bro, I only know a little bit of Spanish! You'll have to translate!
     
  19. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It's a famous "fake" latin phrase coined during WW2 by British soldiers that roughly means "Don't let the bastards grind you down."
     
  20. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Bake it!
     

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