wait and see. they will win next year. yea kg is turning 30. as good as he is he ain't gettin younger. frye is young and developing. maybe he won't be as good as garnett but he will be a good player no question about it. with the team we have right now we should've at least made the playoffs but the players are young and with larry brown in charge that scared them because he demands so much. next year we should be that good because they should have adjusted to brown by then. honestly the jerome james signing was awful but he only signed him because he didn't think we were gettin curry. curry is looking like he is in better shape and i think that heart crap is bullsh*t. he's only 22 or 23 years old and he is going to develop into a dominant big man. our rookies are the best we've had in about 20 years. frye, nate and lee sweetness. hopefully they can finish the season strong so i can have some hope for next season cuz the playoffs ain't happening this year.
The thing is like you said, you would be better off building around those young guys than bringing in those guys like Curry, Crawford, Marbury, James. I would get rid of those high-salary players and build around your young guys. The problem is who will take on those players and the money they have owed to them. That is why you should have taken advantage of the Allan Houston situation and gotten out from under the cap. Now you are left with few options and getting someone like KG or Pierce is your only hope at turning around this team. You need to get a real superstar talent, and to get that you have to give up talent as well. Honestly, Minny is getting absolutely ripped off in that deal, but from a Knicks standpoint its something you have to do. And if you say, no, I would rather build around Frye and my young guys, then you need to trade those high salary guys and commit to rebuilding around the young players as opposed to continuing to add aging, high priced players to your team..
i get what you're saying. the big snacks signing was a stupid addition. i like marbury too much to let him go. i know his reputation isn't a good one but he was buying into larry's system before he got hurt.in regards to garnett, i love the guy. he is one of my favorite players but i think his contract would hurt us even more so we wouldn't really be getting more cap room. i just don't wanna give up on channing so quickly.
This is a made up rumor by RealGM's Chris Reina and the New York media. Just a few weeks ago reporters asked Garnett if he would like to come to New York and play with Marbury and he said, "No, I'm not New York, man." So if Garnett was frustrated in Minnesota, why would he demand a trade to New York? It would be a step backward and he doesn't even like New York City.Plus, just two days ago Garnett said he is "in it for the long haul" here in Minnesota and if he left right now he could consider himself a coward. This rumor is completely false and you shouldn't even consider it. Garnett didn't demand anything and the Timberwolves didn't discuss anything. They did talk to the Knicks, in fact the two teams had a phone conference together, but that was about the Timberwolves acquiring Stephon Marbury.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>he is one of my favorite players but i think his contract would hurt us even more so we wouldn't really be getting more cap room.</div>Knicks will never have cap room. Also, with the way things are looking, you guys keep adding high priced veterans, which only hurts the young guys chances at playing. But if KG is available, you don't pass on it, Knicks fans are overrating Frye. I understand he's young, but Knicks are trying to win now. On a last note, KG is staying in Minny for at least this season. So I think all this talk can end.
Frye is good, he has soft touch, good hands, good shot blocker, rebounder... no wonder the Knicks think he can be a star, if not superstar someday, although there's a concern still about his toughness in the paint. Actually theres this source that said Thomas would only consider trading Frye for a L's top 5 talent. Well I think KG can be considered a top 5, and if Minny were to ask him, the Knicks would be dumb not to do it but... actually pretty understandable if considering the rook has many years ahead of him while KG has probably 2-3 great seasons left.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (myst @ Feb 22 2006, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think Garnett, Francis, Marbury, Iverson, T-Mac, Pierce, Kobe and any other superstars on a .500 team should switch. Just throw them all into a lottery and let the GM pick a number and get a random guy. It will be great for the league and exciting to see how it works out for every team. Lol, I would love to see that happen.</div>How badly would that suck for any team that gave up an ACTUAL superstar and got Francis or Marbury. Yuck, I don't even want to imagine that. I'm fine with Paul Pierce, thank you.
One, this trade is done seeing as Penny just went back to Orlando. Secondly, when you trade somelike KG, you need to get at least two good players, cap space, and a number one because thats what he does. Channing Fyre is good, but not good enough to get KG. I mean, if KG ever gets traded, at least a 3-1 player deal and a number one and expect KG to go somewhere he wants to. The only team that i could see giving a good enough package to get KG would be Golden State with guys like Troy Murphy, Jason Richardson and Mikael Pietrus. If i was either team, I would probably do that, but thats just me. Please dont repost this as a "KG to Golden State" rumor, just an example of talent level it would take to get him.
I agree with pretty much everything being said.1.The Wolves are not trading KG2. Thomas wont bring in any unselfish players DUH
^ NY can still throw lots of players in it... Q-Rich and Maurice Taylor combined have almost the same salary as KG... now if NY is willing to include Frye (which would make the salaries almost perfect match), the player that Minny insists has to be in the deal, if the deal was to happen.
But the point of the trade was to trade Kevin Garnett for an expiring contract and Channing Frye, not dealing Garnett for equally long contracts.But it's a moot point, Garnett wasn't going to be traded in the first place. If that trade was really on the table do you think the Knicks would have taken Steve Francis over Kevin Garnett?
Well, it is Isiah Thomas...after all he did say this is the modern day Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars backcourt..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ Feb 23 2006, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But the point of the trade was to trade Kevin Garnett for an expiring contract and Channing Frye, not dealing Garnett for equally long contracts.But it's a moot point, Garnett wasn't going to be traded in the first place. If that trade was really on the table do you think the Knicks would have taken Steve Francis over Kevin Garnett?</div>Hmmm.. u were correct in this one. The Knicks were initially going to send Crawford + guys for Francis while sending Penny (+ Frye, if it's KG) for KG, Theo Ratliff + Darius Miles, or Kenyon Martin n Earl Watson. But now that Penny is gone for that Francis trade I guess KG isn't going to NY after all.
I agree with the last guy, can this be locked, along with any trade rumor provided by ESPN, cause if they ran things every player gets traded to NY in any sport.
