Who is the next overpayed player that is picked up by the knicks? Not only is Isiah hurting the team now but will hurt them for many years afterwards due to all the bad contracts.
Horrible move by Isiah. Ariza is going to be something. And he gets in return a backcourt with 2 punks that worry more about leading and being the best than their team suceeding. They're going nowhere.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Horrible move by Isiah. Ariza is going to be something. And he gets in return a backcourt with 2 punks that worry more about leading and being the best than their team suceeding. They're going nowhere.</div>ok we'll see what happens. francis and marbury like eachother. and francis and mobely liked eachother. that duo was awesome so why wouldn't this work? we'll just have to see what happens.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Feb 24 2006, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I am going to go out on the limb and say the Knicks are a BETTER team with Francis :winkglasses:</div>wow someone that isn't a knicks fan is actually not bashing this trade. hallelujah haha. i don't think they're gonna clash.
Well no <Censored> they are a better team with Francis than Trevor Ariza and Penny Hardaway, nobody is debating that.
Orlando got ripped off i would have to say. They gave away Francis their best player or at least one of the best for Penny Hardaway who is 35 and is soon going to retire and Trevor Ariza who averages about 5 ppg.
Well no kidding they got ripped off, they didn't do this because they wanted equal value, they wanted cap relief for FAgency.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Feb 24 2006, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Orlando got ripped off i would have to say. They gave away Francis their best player or at least one of the best for Penny Hardaway who is 35 and is soon going to retire and Trevor Ariza who averages about 5 ppg.</div>they didn't get ripped off for three reasons.1. they cleared up cap space with penny's acquisition. they have a good chance to go for a high profiled free agent.2. ariza is a good player. he did only average 5 ppg but he still was a good player. he's athletic, young and can defend. he's only 20 years old. 3. they wanted to trade francis anyway and the trade was only made for cap space. the knicks offered crawford but they didn't want to pay anyone else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2. ariza is a good player. he did only average 5 ppg but he still was a good player. he's athletic, young and can defend. he's only 20 years old.</div> Trevor Ariza is nothing more than a high flying athlete. He can't shoot, play defense, he just runs around and looks like he gives a great effort when in reality he isn't good.
he plays defense. he averaged 1 spg in only 20 minutes. he isn't a great shooter but he hustles and grabs rebounds.
Why are you sporting the Charlotte Bobcats avatar BCB?Also, I can't wait til Francis plays, and then this thread might finally die.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nemesis @ Feb 24 2006, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Orlando got ripped off i would have to say. They gave away Francis their best player or at least one of the best for Penny Hardaway who is 35 and is soon going to retire and Trevor Ariza who averages about 5 ppg.</div>Well they got cap relief, and a young athleteThey didn't give away their best player- DWIGHT HOWARD.I've watched Francis for 5 years (Rockets) now and come to one conclusion: Francis is HORRIBLE. He's a selfish, and stupid PG. He is wayy overpaid/overhyped. He tries to wow crowds with his killer crossovers and sensational jams- but probably has more boneheaded turnovers and dumb shots.The smartest move the Rockets ever made- was trading Francis.
That cap space will come up huge when putting pieces around Dwight and Jameer. Orlando is headed in the right direction, and as of right now, I'd say they are a team with one of the brightest futures.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nykfan4life @ Feb 24 2006, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he plays defense. he averaged 1 spg in only 20 minutes. he isn't a great shooter but he hustles and grabs rebounds.</div>I agree. He is very underrated. Given the right role, the kid will shine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The smartest move the Rockets ever made- was trading Francis.</div>Yes by trading him for a guy with a bad back and a max contract. Smart move.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Feb 25 2006, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes by trading him for a guy with a bad back and a max contract. Smart move.</div>Now that's just cold... He may have a bad back, but a healthy Tracy McGrady is a top 5 player. If anyone's worth a max contract, Tracy McGrady is. And c'mon, it's Steve Francis.