Bulls vs Timberwolves

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  1. bullshooter

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    This should be a much better gauge of where the bulls are than the last couple of games. A win tonight pretty calms all fears I have about this season. And anybody who was expecting anything more than a bumpy ride in a rebuilding year is delusional. So Bulls fans, grab a beer and a warm spot on the couch.The game's on WGN, so you don't have search for a bootleg stream.
     
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    Nobody scores for the first 4:15 for either team, which is actually a promising start for the bulls. This could be an epically bad game.
     
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    Is Noah sporting a shiner under his left eye? Did he get that in last night's game?
     
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    This team is brutal when their only two offensive players don't get going early.
     
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    Is BG hurt, because he is listless tonight and not getting back at all. Guys are fastbreaking right past him and Carney drove around him a couple of times. Does he have the flu or something?
     
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    Oh I don't know: I think the Bulls may have more than two offensive players. But serious folks. I'll be at Grossingers all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
     
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    When you have Thabo, Thomas, and Gray out there then I'd say we have 2 offensive players...

    The defense looks ok, holding them to .405 shooting.

    We're getting killed on the boards though, and our 1st half scoring is routinely achieved in a quarter.
     
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    As much as I like those guys and TT and all his blocks, I feel like MN is holding themselves to .405 shooting more than the bulls are.
     
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    There's something wrong with BG, he's favoring one side. I can't tell if it's his leg or his back.
     
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    Wow...pathetic performance by Chicago tonight. How do you lose to a team as bad as the TWolves? I just don't get it.
     
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    I bet TT had 8 more blocks than he had box outs tonight. And without doing that, the blocks are like racing stripes on an old beater.

    Which is pretty much what the Bulls look like. I'm feeling better and better about the season is a wash post.
     
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    I'm just curious, what were you're expectations for this season in the first place? Did you really expect the bulls to come out like last year was a fluke?
     
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    If Deng played like he did before his injury, the Bulls should have had Rose/Gordon/Deng/Gooden and one of Noah/Thomas. Bench of Hinrich, Hughes, and Nocioni. The potential was there. What isn't a fluke is above the coach in the organization.
     
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    So three key guys are out injured and it's the coaches fault?
     
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    Low, but they were raised by Rose being better than expected.

    Maybe the right way to put it is to say my expectations were low but my hopes were higher.

    * Noah is worse than expected, and IMO looks a bit worse than he did last year.
    * I expected a resolution to the crazy roster imbalance over the summer or early season and it never came.
    * I expected some attempt to get a more veteran defender up front, because there's no winning team that doesn't have one.
    * I expected VDN, despite having growing pains, to have a better plan for using our players, especially Deng, on offense. Defensively he's really a horror show. These players are bad, especially on the inside, but it's inexcusable that nearly halfway through the season they're routinely asking each other who's supposed to be guarding who (and they are... I've seen it, and plenty of other folks have too). And it's not just the guys who might be clueless under any circumstance, it's literally everyone who looks confused.

    * I hoped Tyrus would get it, though I didn't have high expectations.
    * I hoped Thabo would look good, he's looked like hot garbage for the most part.
     
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    I don't really see this as an issue of "fault." Indeed, there may not be a causal link between the crappy coaching and our win/loss record, which I think for the most part has been better than we've played. Dan Bernstein was talking about this on the score the other day (which they broadcast online). His point was that, since the Bears' offense was much better than expected, as well as their season in general, then we have to admit that the coaches did well that season. I'm not sure I agree with that line of thinking.

    I think we can see bad coaching in the way the team plays. 's a confusion level that is unacceptable, a lack of structure and scheming. The Bulls show none of the signs of a team that is growing into a team that could ever be competitive. I don't have to look at who the Bulls beat or lose to, to figure out whether they are well coached. You can see it in the fail.
     
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    If his objective is to win a championship with a core of Hinrich, Deng, Thabo, Thomas, and Noah then he's a miserable failure. That may well be his mandate.

    But yeah, three key guys are out injured so I find it hard to find fault with the coaching or to have much of an expectation of winning any games under those circumstances at all.
     
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    What are the average ages of the Lakers and Celtics, and even the Cavs. The Celtics 3 main guys are all over the age of 30. The Lakers probably average around 30, too. The Cavs probably average around there, too, minus LeBron. The Bulls starting lineup averages about 23. It's a young team, they are years away and it's still too early to tell anything about most of these players. Noah 23, Thabo 24, TT 22, Rose 20, Gray 24: those four guys combined to play more than half the game. BG at only 25 is probably still young enough to learn how to dribble even. With Hinrich, Gooden, Deng out and BG looking like he's playing through something, you should probably lower your expectations. Especially when you sprinkle a healthy dose of the cancerous Larry Hughes into the mix.
     
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    They lost to the Wolves.......

    THE F*CKING TIMBERWOLVES

    I can't watch this team much longer. At least when we had Marcus Fizer and Ron Mercer on the court we understood what was going. This team is a total anomaly. Get Ben Gordon the hell out of here.
     
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    Pretty much, though I don't think Gordon was the problem.

    For that matter, I don't really think Mercer and Fizer were the problem with that godawful Bulls team as much as playing a bunch of awful PGs who didn't belong in the league. Not that they would have been good, but their historic awfulness has to fall largely on Bryce Drew, Squalid El-Amin, AJ Guyton... etc. Wow, those guys sucked ass.
     

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