Blazers threaten the rest of the NBA [merged]

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  1. MikeDC

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    I think the obvious issue with that is that the league might look at that sort of action as bad faith and say it's circumvention of the cap. The CBA has a catch all clause that lets the league prevent anything that isn't specifically covered under the rules but appears to be cap manipulation.
     
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    You know what that sounds like to me. Good business sense!

    Its true that the NBA said he was unfit to play, but they received money because of it. They also signed him understanding the risks.
     
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    I like Ed's other idea (i think it was his idea) . . . offer Miles some other job in the organization but not as a player. Executive director of player personel with a nice salary and benefits.

    If Miles is still Miles . . . he will chase the $$$$
     
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    I understand that, but if it was an argument that worked for both Boston and Memphis ("Hey... he's a guy we want to take a look at. We think he can help. &c.") it seems that Portland could use it, as well.

    The rest of the NBA appears to be avoiding the "cap manipulation" charges, and Portland should (or might) be able to have a "safe harbor", as well.

    And, really, is it less fair on Shavlik Randolph that he's stuck at the end of the bench than that Darius Miles would be?

    Ed O.
     
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    Threatening emails?

    Those emails were not a threat, UNLESS, said team was planning on signing Miles just to screw Portland.
     
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    Fuck Miles. I don't care if we lose our cap flexibility, I do not want him with the Blazers organization on any level. He's a turd.
     
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    I thought of a better position for Darius . . . executive director of the Blazer dancers. Gig comes with a seven figure salary, comapny car (choice of car made by employee) and in charge of all hirings and firing of Blazer dancers.

    Darius can then go to his "dance" clubs all day and write it off as a business expense.
     
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    The main point here is probably not the legal merits of the case. It's to make "sticking it to Portland" a costly venture, rather than a no-cost venture. Barring Portland having solid proof of some kind, the case is probably unwinnable. But it's quite likely something they can spin out and drive up attorney fees on both sides. If another team is willing to pay that much money to deny Portland cap space (a loss of cap space that would be far from crippling), so be it. But raising the cost always lowers the interest level in something. If the number of interested teams in doing this was 1 or 2 and the increased cost almost guaranteed by this e-mail drops interested teams to 0, Portland wins.
     
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    How the hell do you have 3000 posts, I've never seen you around before. :D
     
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    I don't know...magic? :ghoti:
     
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    I'm almost positive that it is 10 games in any single season.
     
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    If it were the Rockets or the Lakers, teams would screw them.

    Before this email, I hoped the Blazers would dodge a bullet and not have to pay Miles. After this threat, I hope Miles plays in at least two more games. Which team is going to have the balls? Probably none.

    It would have been the Rockets if Kevin Pritchard didn't trade those 2 draft picks for Batum. Houston could have had Brandon Roy and Rudy Fernandez.
     
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    I think that counting Miles' 6 exhibition games prior to his 10-game suspension is an example of the NBA acting in bad faith.
     
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    Well yeah, but Boston and Memphis don't have the conflict of interest :)
     
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    This is really a touchy subject that should have been addressed when Miles was with Boston since everyone believed the Boston games didn't count.
    It's a similar situation than what Monta Ellis faced when he was suspended 30 games this season, but it was by his team as opposed to the NBA.
    The NBA calculates players' salaries on a 110-game grid, counting in preseason and potential postseason games, so he was fined $2.99 mil.
    His suspension INCLUDED preseason games, so although he couldn't play anyway due to injury, even if healthy, his suspension included those games and he was fined without pay.
    Doesn't it make sense then that Miles' suspension includes those preseason games with Boston? Or is there something that says NBA suspensions handed down are only for regular-season games.
     
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    There ya go with the "threat" thing.

    If I posted a sign in front of my house that said "Lawbreakers will be prosecuted" you wouldn't think twice about it.... unless you were a lawbreaker. Would it be a threat, or just a warning? Either way, you wouldn't have to worry about it unless your intentions were bad.
     
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    Well, it appears that for Ellis, the rules are different than for Miles, although the situations aren't exactly similar.

    To me, the pre-season games counting is the biggest travesty in all of this, and I'd like a concrete answer from the NBA on why those games count for Miles.
     
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    They're similar in that both faced suspensions to begin the season, but Ellis' involved preseason games and Miles' suspension for some reason didn't.
     
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    the whole point of the clause is that Miles was deemed unfit to play. 10 games is very generous. The Blazers are darned lucky that the threshold was not being signed to a regular season roster. That is what it should have been.

    Again, this stupid move by your Blazers almost guarantees that Miles will be picked up by someone. Self-fulfilling prophecy. I would bet you dollars to donuts that both the union and Miles representatives have informed the Blazers and the NBA that they will be paying him the amount of his guaranteed contract if he doesn't have one to sign.
     
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    I honestly am not sure if I would want him to have an excuse to hang around a bunch of young women all day. Expecially the hiring and firing. I mean, lawsuit, anyone?
     

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